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Developer Preview of Android O

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Re: Developer Preview of Android O

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post #74

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> 85% you are ignoring your own effect on that. The fact that every developer moved to API 19+ is why most users gave up and spent another $400~600 on a new unneeded phone. And thanks to that, no manufacturer will ever support the latest release on a month old phone, because they now know people will just buy a new one.

It's a virtuous circle for sure, however there are very decent sub-$200 devices now with Android 6.0+ (many set to receive 7 in the next couple of months). And on the contract side, many consumers are just accustomed to getting a new device every two years regardless, seeming "free", albeit baked into their service fee. At some point the market will settle as the pad market did, however right now the lack of pressure…

you mean vicious cycle :)

Re: Developer Preview of Android O

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post #62

I'm most excited about the new APIs for autofilling. Using a password manager on the phone today is a pain. Password filling on webpages and native apps is wonky (to say the least), and most of the time I end up manually coping passwords to clipboard, which is both cumbersome and insecure. I really hope the major password managers are quick to adopt this, and it improves the current user experience. "Autofill APIs: A…

FWIW : Google is working with Dashlane in order to extend and generalize SmartLock into a standard lib : openYOLO (you only login once).

That would be pretty awesome (no more passwords ! )

Re: Developer Preview of Android O

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post #74

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Until then, I guess I'll continue targeting API 16. I started targeting API 19 (4.4, KitKat) over a year ago and have never looked back. That encompasses the vast bulk of Android users (>85%) and encompasses almost all of the significant developer improvements. Even using the absolute latest fun such as multiple windows is an absolute breeze from the development side, regardless of many users not supporting it yet. A…

> 85% you are ignoring your own effect on that. The fact that every developer moved to API 19+ is why most users gave up and spent another $400~600 on a new unneeded phone. And thanks to that, no manufacturer will ever support the latest release on a month old phone, because they now know people will just buy a new one.

do you have something to back this ?

I have seen the same kind of stats on apps supporting all APIs levels.

Turns out that people likely to install / use app are using more recent phones in general.

Re: Developer Preview of Android O

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post #95
post #79

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What is your opinion on Dart? I could see Google encouraging devs to learn Dart and make Flutter apps soon. Probably at I/O.

It is not Google encouraging devs, it is the Dart team looking for reasons to keep going, besides Ad Words. Just go watch any Android Fireside at Google IO or the responses of Android team at Reddit. Java is Android's language, with C and C++ just being there to the extent of implementing Java native methods, low latency code and code from other platforms, not full blown access to the OS APIs. As an example of an dis…

Yeah but what about Flutter? It's even part of Fuchsia, their new OS.

Re: Developer Preview of Android O

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post #5

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I look at these previews as an example of things to come 3 years from now. I keep hoping that Google will figure out a solution to that (restrict access to Play Services, say). Until then, I guess I'll continue targeting API 16.

If you are still targeting 16, you should make sure that you are handling a bunch of pretty serious security changes made between 17-21. There are a lot of ways you can shoot yourself in the foot when using the old APIs.

I hope he means that he targets 25 but support 16 as a minimum.

Targeting 16 is just incredibly stupid but I have seen some devs unable to read the documentation..

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