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Startup Serves Up Chicken Produced From Cells in Lab

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Re: Startup Serves Up Chicken Produced From Cells in Lab

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After not eating meat for over 20 years due to the environmental and ethical concerns over how it's conventionally been made, I was lucky enough to be at the tasting described in the WSJ article. I wrote about it here: https://medium.com/@sethbannon/i-just-ate-meat-for-the-first...

Why not simply buy lovingly raised animals (obviously more expensive) instead of quitting on meat. That way you'd signal to the market that there's more demand for that kind of meat. I mean if everyone was a vegetarian/vegan some pretty cool animals would probably be extinct soon.

"lovingly raised" to be slaughtered is an oxymoron.

Re: Startup Serves Up Chicken Produced From Cells in Lab

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not simply buy lovingly raised animals (obviously more expensive) instead of quitting on meat. That way you'd signal to the market that there's more demand for that kind of meat. I mean if everyone was a vegetarian/vegan some pretty cool animals would probably be extinct soon.

"lovingly raised" to be slaughtered is an oxymoron.

Yeah, I think he/she meant "humanely raised"

Re: Startup Serves Up Chicken Produced From Cells in Lab

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not simply buy lovingly raised animals (obviously more expensive) instead of quitting on meat. That way you'd signal to the market that there's more demand for that kind of meat. I mean if everyone was a vegetarian/vegan some pretty cool animals would probably be extinct soon.

"lovingly raised" to be slaughtered is an oxymoron.

Not necessarily. Anyone who runs small farms or boutique cattle studs would disagree.

All animals will die at some stage. If their life up to that point was in a caring and respectful environment, and they are humanely killed, what's the problem?

We regularly sent our cattle to the abattoir, and it didn't stop them being happy cows that got hugs and shoulder scratches...

Re: Startup Serves Up Chicken Produced From Cells in Lab

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Meat is the easiest form of high quality protein. Not everyone's digestive system is amenable to high quantities of non-meat protein sources or to high-carb diets.

How is it easiest? Perhaps most accessible how society is currently setup, but beans, tofu, etc are all good for you, plenty of vegan body builders rely on them. This "high quality" protein myth is garbage.

At least for me, I have a high-sensitivity gut that sometimes verges into IBS territory, if I mistreat it. I can't tolerate beans or similar in any quantity, so I'm left with pretty much tofu as a non-meat protein source. And I have to eat fairly high-protein low-carb to avoid various minor autoimmune nuisances. So if I were to cut meat, dairy, and eggs - I would pretty much have to exist on tofu, and I'm dubious about that being a good idea.

I think my situation is hardly rare.

Re: Startup Serves Up Chicken Produced From Cells in Lab

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not simply buy lovingly raised animals (obviously more expensive) instead of quitting on meat. That way you'd signal to the market that there's more demand for that kind of meat. I mean if everyone was a vegetarian/vegan some pretty cool animals would probably be extinct soon.

"lovingly raised" to be slaughtered is an oxymoron.

Exactly. One can make an extreme example and ask how they would feel about someone lovingly slaughtering their husband/wife and children.

Re: Startup Serves Up Chicken Produced From Cells in Lab

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After not eating meat for over 20 years due to the environmental and ethical concerns over how it's conventionally been made, I was lucky enough to be at the tasting described in the WSJ article. I wrote about it here: https://medium.com/@sethbannon/i-just-ate-meat-for-the-first...

on a related note, I was actually quite hopefull/impressed when the bad-press about a 50% soy subway chicken came out a few weeks ago. That's a huge win for sustainability! Of course it was too awesome to be true, turns out the test was faulty and it's actually less than 1% soy.

Re: Startup Serves Up Chicken Produced From Cells in Lab

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So why are all the engineered meat startups targeting pretty common meats that are fairly low cost? Why not a something like tuna which is endangered and can sell at a really high cost per pound. Take the Tesla strategy and build for a high-end exotic market that can sustain a high-margin first then get into position for the wider, lower margin market.

One meat startup went into high-end leather: http://www.modernmeadow.com/ Another algae-to-make-food company went into high-end oils for cosmetics: http://www.solazyme.com/ (and some other industrial things, from what I see now)

Cheap ivory and rhino horn would help a lot, too.

Re: Startup Serves Up Chicken Produced From Cells in Lab

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post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"lovingly raised" to be slaughtered is an oxymoron.

Not necessarily. Anyone who runs small farms or boutique cattle studs would disagree. All animals will die at some stage. If their life up to that point was in a caring and respectful environment, and they are humanely killed, what's the problem? We regularly sent our cattle to the abattoir, and it didn't stop them being happy cows that got hugs and shoulder scratches...

What exactly does "humanely killed" mean? Is there a method of being killed against your will that you'd be up for?
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