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Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by iamatworknow »

epistasis wrote: post #102
iamatworknow wrote: post #98

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>Twitter was basically unusable for a week afterwards. Can you imagine that shit all the time? I can't, because in such a situation I would just delete my account. Spending your time responding to or blocking and reporting all of them would be maddening, for sure, but that is what gives them their "power". It's easier to click only one or two buttons and just be done with it all. Let them have their little victory. D…

Giving up an identity, followers, and communication streams and starting from scratch is giving them a full victory, not a "little victory," that's their entire goal, the big deal. Sometimes the right thing to do, but it seems rude to give it as blanket advice.

This is a lesson I learned a long time ago -- don't define your identity or personal value on a public online service. It will always, always come back to bite you in the ass in one way or another.

A fun way to pass the time, yeah. A way to keep current with what's going on in the real time, sure. But the more personally invested you are in such a thing and the more you open up your private life and thoughts to strangers, the more devastated you will be when things go south.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by jsemrau »

arprocter wrote: post #7

Interested to see how penalizing accounts for 'repeatedly tweeting at non-followers' is going to work when most of what I see on the platform is people messaging celebs who don't follow them back

That got me banned a couple of weeks ago. I wrote an application that recommended an event to the user once he\she would tweet "I am bored". I made the mistake by giving providing a fall back once the location could not be determined. This lead to ~40 tweets with identical texts. Twitter quickly pulled out the banhammer.

Not to spam, but here is a write-up if there is an interest in what and how it happened: https://hackernoon.com/how-i-got-myself-banned-on-twitter-43...

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by jsemrau »

iamatworknow wrote: post #18
eropple wrote: post #12

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Having concerted bombs of right-wing harassment drop on one's head for having the temerity to do something like "be a woman with political opinions" is not part of being an adult. And that's the reality of Twitter right now. This isn't nearly enough; actually showing the trackable legions of smurf-account harassers the door might be beyond Twitter's meager capabilities at the moment (after all, they only have a small…

The question then becomes is the necessity of having a twitter account "part of being an adult"? I'm not saying the harassment is right, mind you, and certainly doxxing and real physical threats should be treated as the criminal acts that they are, but I don't think it's something that can ever really be remedied unless the victim removes themselves from the situation. As I see it there is a sort of give and take rel…

>The question then becomes is the necessity of having a twitter account "part of being an adult"?

I would think it became a replacement for an RSS feed (with pictures and drama)

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Post by epistasis »

iamatworknow wrote: post #111
epistasis wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Giving up an identity, followers, and communication streams and starting from scratch is giving them a full victory, not a "little victory," that's their entire goal, the big deal. Sometimes the right thing to do, but it seems rude to give it as blanket advice.

This is a lesson I learned a long time ago -- don't define your identity or personal value on a public online service. It will always, always come back to bite you in the ass in one way or another. A fun way to pass the time, yeah. A way to keep current with what's going on in the real time, sure. But the more personally invested you are in such a thing and the more you open up your private life and thoughts to stran…

I think we're talking about different things here. I mean to refer to an online identity, a way to talk to people about a certain topic. It can be professional, commercial, political, or personal. Many people have several online identities, to talk about different topics, and they're not attached to the personal side at all.

Of course, even if it's not a personal identity, that's not enough to stop certain people from attacking the Twitter user's personal life.

You seem to be arguing to not use Twitter, which is just fine, I don't think it's necessary at all in my life. But I think a lot of people find a lot of value in the platform, and when there's something of value, I can see why a lot of people would rather try to keep Twitter useful rather than just abandon it entirely.

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Post by dotnetisnotdead »

sidlls wrote: post #82
dotnetisnotdead wrote: post #59

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You're kidding right? The right says a lot of stupid things...ok TONS of stupid things, but "left leaning media" isn't one of them. These media outlets may not be state blessed, but we have the media on our side, and we have our Jackals for sure. 99% of the media is leaning hard to the left on everything. The Milo incident is a fine example. While was repugnant and deserved it, that was an absolute media witch hunt,…

The media does not have a "hard left" bias. They have a "hard profit" bias. The most recent example is the 2016 election, in which they used an orange haired fascist and a right-leaning, conservative "new Democrat" to amplify their entertainment driven ratings (and ad revenue).

likely a more accurate description of the situation.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by dotnetisnotdead »

nyargh wrote: post #75
dotnetisnotdead wrote: post #51

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>Stop normalizing evil. Doing so literally-not-figuratively arms those who would do harm to the people among us who need our support. Show them the door, not their victims. To be completely fair, they will remove people for blatantly racist/sexist/homophobic tweets, and often do, where "f * white males" talk is completely allowed there.

Won't someone think of the white males?

fighting racism and sexism with more racism and sexism should work out just fine.

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Post by moonshinefe »

eropple wrote: post #12
unethical_ban wrote: post #2

Today, the egg, tomorrow, unverified account names. Are they going full Facebook? And filtering out keywords in messages... I suppose that's ok, and certainly their prerogative, but talk about creating more social bubbles. As much as I disagree with the random twits on the site, it reminds me that not everyone is a left-leaning political hobbyist. Hearing things you don't necessarily like is part of being an adult.

Having concerted bombs of right-wing harassment drop on one's head for having the temerity to do something like "be a woman with political opinions" is not part of being an adult. And that's the reality of Twitter right now. This isn't nearly enough; actually showing the trackable legions of smurf-account harassers the door might be beyond Twitter's meager capabilities at the moment (after all, they only have a small…

I believe what he was getting at is as an adult, you should be able to realize that a website on the internet is just that--and have the ability to take it with a grain of salt without being highly offended / outraged.

I don't think the intention was to say everyone on Twitter are adults--in fact it's the complete opposite of that. It's a platform where you can get both the best and the worst from all walks of life across the world. Sometimes there will be jerks and people who are the polar opposite ideologically to what you agree with.

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Post by strken »

rhizome wrote: post #80
intoverflow2 wrote: post #60

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> including "automatically block accounts under X days old that @ me" How can a new user (who isn't a harasser) engage with the Twitter service if they get auto-blocked when they try to engage with anyone on the platform?

If "engage" means "HA HA U SUK TRUMP UR AZZ MAKE ME A SANDWICH" then maybe Twitter isn't a good place for them.

What if engage means "I want to blow the whistle on something, can you get me in touch with a journalist?" for 0.01% of blocked messages and "u suk vote yrump" for the rest?

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Post by dotnetisnotdead »

Karunamon wrote: post #76
eropple wrote: post #46

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If Twitter wants to show the alt-left tools the door too, I'm certainly not gonna cape up for them. But there is a difference of orders of magnitude in both size and cohesiveness to wrestle with here, and it's not towards the burned Bernie bros. That alt-left doesn't have members of state-blessed media outlets (well, until recently, when cheering on pedophilia became a little too much for them) on campus tours where…

But there is a difference of orders of magnitude in both size and cohesiveness to wrestle with here The most non-snarky way I can put this is: "Citation needed". Something that is a left leaning/liberal phenomenon almost exclusively from my experiences is the propensity for shouting a statement into public, and then claiming that anyone who has the temerity to reply to their tweet with anything other than wholehearte…

I relate to this 100%. I'm a lifelong Democrat, but in the last 2 years the culture has changed so drastically, I am being pushed to the center. I'm not alone in this, and it's bad for democrats. They don't realize it just yet.

The over use of "Bigot", "Racist", "Nazi", etc completely devalue the words. They take away their power. 10 years ago nobody wanted to be called a Nazi but now people laugh it off. That's dangerous. We want to be be afraid of being called a racist. We want to discourage it.

When Suzy soccer mom says she wants some stricter vetting for refugees she's not the same as Billy Bob sitting in his cabin planning out the burning of black churches. But the left has gone full throttle in that direction. They take the easy path of calling someone a name rather than defend their position, even if it's perfectly defensible.

These loud voices are drowning out the moderate, reasonable people on the left, and pushing them away. This is a bad long term strategy.

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Post by AlwaysRock »

Balgair wrote: post #105
Grollicus wrote: post #72

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"500.000 new Members last month!!1" (I just totally made that up) I suspect its the same as facebooks "2 Billion Users" - its just good for PR to have huge numbers. If you look too closely you might even lose Members in a Month, and we all know "growth" is very important..

You know, I could see ol' Zuck sitting there in his Herman-Miller Aeron chair looking at the internal numbers of FB 'users' and seeing the number be ~15 billion accounts that their in-house 'bot filters still think are 'real' people. He says to himself: 'You know, maybe I could tell the UN that there really are 15 billion people out there and they are all on FB. Ha, I mean, a lot of people really might believe me.' H…

Do you have a blog? Genuine question.
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