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Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by lilbobbytables »

kristopolous wrote: post #28
ethana wrote: post #18

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Stucked in time: http://www.excite.com/

look at the source. Something makes me think this will work in Netscape 4. edit: nope. http://imgur.com/a/Jt38q not really. edit 2: Here's a HP B-series PA-RISC from my closet running actual vintage NS-4, also no, http://i.imgur.com/tt7AYqj.png (the top window is a search for the term "cat") Google however, almost still works http://i.imgur.com/kdTd1AU.png ... I give them an A. hn and kernel.org get a security algori…

Seeing Macromedia's logo really hit me in the nostalgia.

I remember tinkering with Flash back in the day, even before it was Adobe.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by vinceguidry »

ancarda wrote: post #106
vinceguidry wrote: post #105

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The HN crowd is absolutely tiny , compared to the entire development ecosystem. And a lot of us aren't even shot-callers.

Are you suggesting there's zero people outside HN who avoid Google products due to legitimate concerns of long-term availability?

You should address that question to d0vs, as he is the one who made that point.

But now that I have a chance to think about it, I can see his point. Most companies don't really take that particular risk into account and just kick the problem down the road. If you tried raising it as an issue, you'd get responses ranging from 'sure, figure out a way to value the risk and we'll add it into the model', to 'who cares really?'.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by majewsky »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #84
derefr wrote: post #47

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It's sort of the startup philosophy in reverse. "Only do things that have economies of scale." As if Google is just one person controlling a billion robots, and can do anything a billion robots can do, but can't do anything that requires more than the oversight of a single human for the entire project. (In est, Google is the player-character in Factorio.)

So basically, the Google-character has too low APM. Maybe time to hire StarCraft progamers for executive positions?

The similarity between the words "progamers" and "programmers" was really irritating to me in that line. :)

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by majewsky »

ungzd wrote: post #108
nodesocket wrote: post #52

What are some competitors to site search?

Postgresql's tsvectors and GIN, Elasticsearch.

That's on a different layer, though. If you already have your raw content in a database somewhere, you can push that into Elastic or Postgres without too much effort, but if you need to parse your HTML documents first, good luck with that.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by bdavisx »

StevePerkins wrote: post #101
d0vs wrote: post #93

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I honestly don't think people outside the HN echo chamber care that much.

On the contrary. I've spent much of my career in the conservative "enterprise" world... and outside of the HN echo chamber, most established companies aren't yet making heavy use of Google products at all. Largely due to the cultural disconnect being discussed here. Sorry, but " We'll give you 12 months notice! " is still nowhere near "enterprisey". Try a decade.

>Try a decade.

And even longer if you're willing to pay outrageous sums of money.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by mkaziz »

imglorp wrote: post #92
swang wrote: post #67

this is why i'm not completely 100% with google photos. i'm ready to spend the monthly fees to store all my pictures in its original resolution, use google photos to manage/search my photos. except i don't want to commit to using it and then finding out google doesn't want to support it and just dumps it. same thing with google voice. i use it but i've never committed to using it as my main phone number. maybe it's a…

What would happen if they wanted to sunset Voice? There's a large bank of phone numbers people migrated in there. I'm guessing they could spin out Grand Central again as its own business?

Or they could just say, migrate your phone number elsewhere.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by nattaylor »

swang wrote: post #67

this is why i'm not completely 100% with google photos. i'm ready to spend the monthly fees to store all my pictures in its original resolution, use google photos to manage/search my photos. except i don't want to commit to using it and then finding out google doesn't want to support it and just dumps it. same thing with google voice. i use it but i've never committed to using it as my main phone number. maybe it's a…

I'm betting that Google Photos will necessarily stick around in order to keep Android competitive with iOS (and perhaps Windows.) I desperately hope they make it a paid service, if needed, rather than shutter it.

I've fully committed and have uploaded 40,932 photos. All of the automation has been amazing.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by glebm »

buro9 wrote: post #54
laurentdc wrote: post #25

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Amazing. It even renders more or less decently on mobile. I'm going to start a new trend in web design. I'll call it 56k design.

> I'm going to start a new trend in web design. I'll call it 56k design. That was pretty much my criteria when I was making forum software: https://www.lfgss.com/ It's still too heavy and slow, and there's still some things I could do better. But that's nitpicking, it's pretty good and when I finish re-structuring all of the code it will be a single binary install for those who want to use it, or a split-binary Web-U…

We've built the Thredded forums engine (https://thredded.org) with the same goals in mind. The entire CSS is 10KiB, JavaScript loads asynchronously and is optional.
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