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Why Do Americans Refrigerate Their Eggs?

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Re: Why Do Americans Refrigerate Their Eggs?

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Interesting; explains why my Chinese friend has a habit of leaving the eggs out on the counter after taking them out of the fridge. Thought she was just absent-minded.

Seems like it would be fine for them to blow them off with air, and irradiate them. Then if there's some crap stuck to them you at least won't be getting salmonella.

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As a side note on boiling eggs: older eggs are sometimes preferred for boiling because they're easier to peel, but if you're working with fresh eggs consider steaming them instead. Get the pan or steamer up to temperature, add eggs with a slotted spoon, cover, steam ~12 minutes, transfer to an ice bath to chill at least 5 minutes, peel. For extra large or jumbo eggs, probably add a minute. Adjust to taste for future…

Boiling or steaming eggs for 12 minutes results in a tough white and dry yolk. Just put them in a pot, not large, with enough water to cover the eggs and no more. Cold water. Add heat, high, and heat to boil for no more than a minute. Remove and put in cool/running water. Results in non-plastic whites and soft yolks. Though, I prefer poached or scrambled. For boiled, quail eggs are great (and, where I live, also chea…

Soft-boiled eggs don't seem to be cooked enough to kill salmonella.

The FDA's advice is to "cook eggs until yolks are firm".[1]

[1] - https://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/ucm077342...

Re: Why Do Americans Refrigerate Their Eggs?

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Milk used to kill a lot of people yet many would drink it without issue for decades. So, your sample size is a little small in the grand scheme of things.

OK, here's another sample. The eggs I bought yesterday (I'm in the UK) have a "best before" date printed on them of 4 March, i.e. 2 weeks.

That is due to EU regulations. We used to have 4 weeks on eggs in Norway, but was forced to limit it to 2 weeks. Apparently it was all about salmonella risk, even though that is very rare in our eggs.

Re: Why Do Americans Refrigerate Their Eggs?

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I think it's the non-car dependent folks that (good or bad) have "no option". I far prefer shopping for two or three weeks at a time, refrigerating fruits, vegetables, and milk.

> I think it's the non-car dependent folks that (good or bad) have "no option". In cities people typically have a grocery store within 5 to 10 minutes walk from home.

Not in the US. San Francisco is one of the US's densest cities, and eastern SoMa is one of its densest neighborhoods, right next to downtown. It's about a square mile, and there are no real grocery stores in it at all (east of 4th St).

Re: Why Do Americans Refrigerate Their Eggs?

#115

Interesting; explains why my Chinese friend has a habit of leaving the eggs out on the counter after taking them out of the fridge. Thought she was just absent-minded. Seems like it would be fine for them to blow them off with air, and irradiate them. Then if there's some crap stuck to them you at least won't be getting salmonella.

Chicken feces can be infected with salmonella. So if that gets in to your food...

Re: Why Do Americans Refrigerate Their Eggs?

#117

Interesting; explains why my Chinese friend has a habit of leaving the eggs out on the counter after taking them out of the fridge. Thought she was just absent-minded. Seems like it would be fine for them to blow them off with air, and irradiate them. Then if there's some crap stuck to them you at least won't be getting salmonella.

Chicken feces can be infected with salmonella. So if that gets in to your food...

That's why I said irradiate them, please read comments before getting so up in arms.

Re: Why Do Americans Refrigerate Their Eggs?

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Boiling or steaming eggs for 12 minutes results in a tough white and dry yolk. Just put them in a pot, not large, with enough water to cover the eggs and no more. Cold water. Add heat, high, and heat to boil for no more than a minute. Remove and put in cool/running water. Results in non-plastic whites and soft yolks. Though, I prefer poached or scrambled. For boiled, quail eggs are great (and, where I live, also chea…

Soft-boiled eggs don't seem to be cooked enough to kill salmonella. The FDA's advice is to "cook eggs until yolks are firm" .[1] [1] - https://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/ucm077342...

I think salmonella from a UK egg is incredibly rare now. Pregnant women are advised not too but they're advised to eat well done steak too:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25154046

Re: Why Do Americans Refrigerate Their Eggs?

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As a side note on boiling eggs: older eggs are sometimes preferred for boiling because they're easier to peel, but if you're working with fresh eggs consider steaming them instead. Get the pan or steamer up to temperature, add eggs with a slotted spoon, cover, steam ~12 minutes, transfer to an ice bath to chill at least 5 minutes, peel. For extra large or jumbo eggs, probably add a minute. Adjust to taste for future…

Boiling or steaming eggs for 12 minutes results in a tough white and dry yolk. Just put them in a pot, not large, with enough water to cover the eggs and no more. Cold water. Add heat, high, and heat to boil for no more than a minute. Remove and put in cool/running water. Results in non-plastic whites and soft yolks. Though, I prefer poached or scrambled. For boiled, quail eggs are great (and, where I live, also chea…

I used to do this but actually I've started to get the water to a rolling boil and timing it just right from there.

6 - 7 minutes produces an egg where the yolks are not runny but are also not chalky and brittle. They have a creamy texture and deep orange colour. This on toast.

Re: Why Do Americans Refrigerate Their Eggs?

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> I think it's the non-car dependent folks that (good or bad) have "no option". In cities people typically have a grocery store within 5 to 10 minutes walk from home.

Not in the US. San Francisco is one of the US's densest cities, and eastern SoMa is one of its densest neighborhoods, right next to downtown. It's about a square mile, and there are no real grocery stores in it at all (east of 4th St).

What are you talking about? East of 4th in SoMa I count 7 grocery stores, and if your unwilling to shop at anything sub-70k sqft, there are two. Most of the neighborhood east of 4th is within 1 to 2 blocks of a grocery store (with eggs, fresh fruit/veggies, and other essentials), and within 4 blocks of a megastore like Whole Paycheck or Costco if you really want their prepackaged crap.

This is just like the whole "Food Desert" scheme by the USDA, where they try to create stores in areas with local grocers already. For example, they define Tukwila, WA as a food desert [1], yet there are multiple places within the area they defined that stock fresh food and are EBT approved (Seafood City, 99 Ranch, Costco, Cash & Carry, etc).

This is why the attempts to get rid of these supposed deserts fall flat. Those that need or want to shop local already do, at places others like yourself ignore cause they feel they aren't of high enough caliber.

1 - https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-access-research-...

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