Live data from Hacker News

A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

willemm.nl

111–120 of 130 posts

Re: A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

#111
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorting large volumes of Lego ... call me crazy :) (several metric tons worth)

I thought it was Lego at first, but 39000 shapes seemed a bit much. I thought there were only 8-10k shapes?

  mysql> select count(*) from parts;
  +----------+
  | count(*) |
  +----------+
  |    38516 |
  +----------+
  1 row in set (0.00 sec)
Though I'm sure there is some overlap it's definitely not 70%.

Re: A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

#112
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really think this has to do with legal limits; you could probably sell a hut as a "house" in most places if you wanted to, as long as it was compliant with the building codes. The problem isn't that the government won't let you call it that, the problem is that nobody will buy just a hut, they want an actual house. While it may or may not be the case that 'house quality' has declined over the decades, that's…

>as long as it was compliant with the building codes Huts aren't compliant with building codes - and regardless, there's specific criteria you have to fulfill to get various statistics (square footage, bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen). Plus there are zoning restrictions on minimum building sizes, on top of regulations on minimum room sizes. >do house buyers want to pay 1.2x or whatever for those extra details? Even if t…

> The big issue is that American homebuyers, as a class, have lost the ability to distinguish good home design from bad. "Why" is a long essay, but the "just trust me on this" is that the vast majority of home-buyers have little to no experience in the sort of work that goes into building a home.

and therefore this is not a legal issue, but an economic one. (or aesthetic, or whatever you want to call it, but not legal)

Re: A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

#113
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought it was Lego at first, but 39000 shapes seemed a bit much. I thought there were only 8-10k shapes?

mysql> select count(*) from parts; +----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 38516 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.00 sec) Though I'm sure there is some overlap it's definitely not 70%.

That's really shapes and not counting colors/prints multiple times? (Not that it really matters to the scope of the problem ;))

Re: A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

#114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A list of which would make for an interest design book.

You might really enjoy The Timeless Way of Building.

That's a great suggestion. I flipped through A Pattern Language a few years ago and found it fascinating.

Re: A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

#115
post #11

Here's the commercial version.[1] This machine is sorting peas by color. Peas. Individual peas. Each individual pea is examined by cameras for size, color, and looking like a pea. Rejects are kicked into the reject hopper by an air jet. There are machines like this for most fruit. Typical throughput is a ton per hour. Most fruit and berries go through such machines today. That's why the fruit at the supermarket is so…

This one is cool also (conveyor belt that can do all sorts of fun stuff): https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLKfWL8IXgKBte4TfD53pLaHO...

Re: A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

#116
post #11

Here's the commercial version.[1] This machine is sorting peas by color. Peas. Individual peas. Each individual pea is examined by cameras for size, color, and looking like a pea. Rejects are kicked into the reject hopper by an air jet. There are machines like this for most fruit. Typical throughput is a ton per hour. Most fruit and berries go through such machines today. That's why the fruit at the supermarket is so…

I worked on a cranberry farm one summer where they used a cranberry grader to sort remove the fruit from the vines and separate the good from the bad. It is basically a bunch of boards at a slight angle so that any damaged or very small cranberries would bounce out, away from the good cranberries. Next the fruit rolls down a large comb like board where it is sorted by size. It is generally sold at that point and Ocean Spray would sort it by color depending on the final product. It was amazing how well such a simple and easy to repair machine worked

Re: A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

#117
post #10

Top marks for: 1. Showing a diversity of maker skills 2. Making something that actually works 3. Industrial design savvy 4. Entertaining video You've given me some motivation to get off of HN and work on one of my side projects for the rest of today.

Mechanically, it could have been done a bit simpler. This is an old project that has been around a long time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku9PKRoH1CE

Re: A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

#118
post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mysql> select count(*) from parts; +----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 38516 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.00 sec) Though I'm sure there is some overlap it's definitely not 70%.

That's really shapes and not counting colors/prints multiple times? (Not that it really matters to the scope of the problem ;))

No, if you multiply by colors it gets much worse. 100's of thousands of possibilities...

Of course not all parts exist in all colors so that helps (a bit), but it is quite an interesting problem to work on. Every assumption you make will be challenged.

Prints and stickers are counted separately but that's not a really huge number and they should be correctly identified (so the surface decoration matters as well in the classification).

Re: A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can share: what are you working on, out of interest?

Sorting large volumes of Lego ... call me crazy :) (several metric tons worth)

I was hoping it was Lego sorting! Every kid's dream machine. I got to talk with Nathan Sawaya at an event where he brought boxes of mixed Lego for us to play with. (including some of the giant Lego boulder from the Mythbusters episode) He said paying his assistants to sort bulk used Lego was more expensive than ordering new bricks en masse. (In the context of his sculpture projects at least)

Re: A DIY M&Ms and Skittles sorting machine

#120
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the Google SRE book they say that if a service has reliability much better than the stated SLO they artificially introduce errors to get closer to the error budget. This is to prevent over-reliance on the measured SLO rather than the stated SLO in upstream services.

This sounds very very odd? Why ride the line? It'd take one major issue then you're way over you error budget? For testing/simulations I can see why you'd introduce the errors.

My understanding is that they don't bring the service to exactly the SLO... To prevent overreliance on a service, it can be sufficient to introduce some level of failure, which may still be well above the SLO.

http://danluu.com/google-sre-book/#chapter-4-service-level-o...

Post reply on HN