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Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Surely the tweet means that Airbnb are paying the fee that otherwise would be paid by guests? We only have the tweet to go on, so what makes you think otherwise?

An employee on this thread linked to their Disasters Program, where this even will appear, and which works like that.

No, it doesn't.

Airbnb waives the airbnb fees, but does not pay the host for accommodations offered under the program. To me, that is not "Airbnb is providing free housing".

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An employee on this thread linked to their Disasters Program, where this even will appear, and which works like that.

No, it doesn't. Airbnb waives the airbnb fees, but does not pay the host for accommodations offered under the program. To me, that is not "Airbnb is providing free housing".

Sorry, I wasn't clear. By "like that", I meant not paying the host :)

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Airbnb IS NOT providing free housing. Airbnb isn't paying for housing refugees. Potential hosts can offer free housing, which just makes Airbnb like Couchsurfing. So Airbnb isn't paying for anything here or even giving anything for free. People who really want to help can use CouchSurfing web site instead of promoting a for profit business. If Airbnb offered free housing it would mean they would actually pay the host…

Brian Chesky's tweet is disingenuous. It's aggregating when people use the suffering of others as an opportunity for self-promotion, regardless of whether their actions ultimately help anyone (especially if they take more credit than they deserve).

Surprising fact, though! Couchsurfing.com is actually a for profit organization. Their business model, however, is not the same as AirBnB.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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All of the virtue signaling and moral feather preening surrounding this issue is something to behold.

It seems we're entering a new era where businesses engage in political activism as well as simple commerce.

If that's the case, it's only fair that other groups, whose politics may differ from the activist-businesses', start using politics to weaken those businesses and counter their influence.

For example, it's well known that Airbnb operates under the radar of housing regulations in many localities.

Perhaps people who disagree with Airbnb's politics should organize and bring about legislation that will eliminate or severely curtail Airbnb's ability to do business in their town, county or state.

Or perhaps the Republicans, though new federal liability laws, should render Airbnb's business model non-viable at the national level.

The left has been engaging in total war against the right for about a decade. They seek to impose social and economic penalties on those who hold political views different than their own. And they've done this, fairly secure in the knowledge that there would be few or no repercussions against them.

But I have a feeling that's starting to change.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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I'm an employee, so for what it's worth, this isn't something out of the blue. Airbnb has a disaster response program that gets activated all the time for natural disasters and other tragedies - https://www.airbnb.com/disaster-response We're choosing to activate it in response to the executive order because it goes directly against our company mission to let people belong anywhere. I'm sure PR was part of the decisio…

Stunt, then, as AirBNB isn't providing any free housing. You're just going to browbeat people who offered "housing to displaced neighbors and relief workers" to underwrite "your" provision of housing to people who are neither neighbors nor relief workers.

Incorrect.

Volunteers are covered under AirBNB's $1 million host insurance. That's certainly not free.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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/r/hailcorporate Look at this account. https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=peapod91 https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=peapod91 Same here, https://www.reddit.com/user/watchdogsrox

That's a personal attack and will get your account banned if you do it again.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

#117

AirBNB might want to adjust their offer since the majority of the world population are not allowed in the US. Visas are limited by country and can be an arduous process. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_the_United_St... Only visitors from the few countries in blue or green are permitted entry automatically: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Visa_policy_of_the_USA.... I mention this without any advoca…

(Good point, misread your post.)

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not 100% true, there are plenty of instant book properties on AirBnB which do not require any interaction between host and guest before the purchase.

It was the decision of hosts to list the properties for instant booking, so host controls who can stay anyway. In these cases it just does not matter for the host who are the guests.

Yes, that's true, and I never said it wasn't. I was just clarifying that, in some cases, you don't communicate with the host before you book.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

#119

All of the virtue signaling and moral feather preening surrounding this issue is something to behold. It seems we're entering a new era where businesses engage in political activism as well as simple commerce. If that's the case, it's only fair that other groups, whose politics may differ from the activist-businesses', start using politics to weaken those businesses and counter their influence. For example, it's well…

> The left has been engaging in total war against the right for about a decade.

Funny, I see it as almost the exact opposite. The backlash against Obama was a weaponization of politics on a scale not seen since the Civil Rights and anti-Vietnam War movements. I'd characterize the corporate response as businesses trying to operate in a cosmopolitan market, in a climate of nativist politics.

And your viewpoint feels especially ironic when a common conservative/libertarian argument against government interventions to advance civil rights is that the market will work it out. It seems we see how serious folks actually are about that idea, in these rare instances when it plays itself out in reality. Because let's also not pretend that this represents some type of long-term investment in social justice.

And is doubly ironic that you seem to be advocating that the government punish a private entity for stances that seem well within its rights.

Re: Airbnb is providing free housing to refugees and anyone not allowed in the US

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>No its not a "dumb argument". It's dumb because it judges private business on how it spends its resources on charity. It's also dumb because it suggests that some people are better then others and deserve the help more. >Homelessness is just as much of a humanitarian crisis. Homelessness is not an acute crisis, which happens and develops as quickly as execution of order of insane U.S. president. It's a problem that…

>Homelessness is not an acute crisis, which happens and develops as quickly as execution of order of insane U.S. president." Homelessness is not acute? I think you not be using that word correctly. For people living paycheck to paycheck they are often one check away from being homeless. It can happen overnight!

I know what is it and yes, it is neither a crisis, nor it's acute problem that should be invoked as an argument against helping others. If you are poor in developed country, you will not starve to death, you will not be tortured and you will not die from air strike or accidental bullet just to be called "inevitable collateral damage". Your life is hard, but you are not in grave danger like people fleeing from a civil war or dictatorship. There are already plenty of charities and government programs that will help you.
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