We are affected by this. Our elasticsearch process were getting killed even though we set xmx to half of the ram. Now reverting the kernel.
"I don't always upgrade my kernels, but when I do it's in production"
You have to do it some time.
Ubuntu 16.04: “Out of memory” errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59
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Re: Ubuntu 16.04: “Out of memory” errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, Ubuntu still keeps running out of space in /boot by filling it w old kernels in the default partition profile. A bug that I've been hitting since about 2011. In spite of their best efforts, it is not the "grandma friendly" quality software it hoped to be.
Honestly, the amount of regressions, packaging problems, hacky fixes, non-stardard configuration and poorly set defaults in Ubuntu is disgusting, look at how bad NetworkManager was / is on it, it's not that bad on Fedora (not that I like it that much) and the whole debarcle with them doing Unitiy on top of Gnome rather than contributing to the community projects, or recently when they released an update that broke al…
andrewshadura is right. Here's just one of your items that is bunkum, for an example.
> their own custom [...] init system of Upstart when they could have contributed to System
upstart was developed several years, just under half a decade, before systemd even existed; it was used by Fedora for three years.
Re: Ubuntu 16.04: “Out of memory” errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59
#113I stopped using Ubuntu after Amazon affiliate marketing showed up on the desktop. I stopped using Arch after I read the source code for SystemD. FreeBSD had quite a learning curve, but now it's on my laptops and is my preferred server OS. I love DTrace. I love ZFS. I love pf. I love Jails. I love ports, even though I generally use pkg. I love how easy it is to compile a kernel. The FreeBSD handbook is awesome. All th…
Do you Firefox? Because Firefox has Google as the default search engine which got them to receive hundreds of millions of dollars per year. Without that money,firefox would have been a lousy browser mainly by volunteers. Ubuntu tried to do something with amazon but probably did not earn enough money and was scrapped for more than a year.
You're mistaken, FF is using Yahoo! right now.
Re: Ubuntu 16.04: “Out of memory” errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, the amount of regressions, packaging problems, hacky fixes, non-stardard configuration and poorly set defaults in Ubuntu is disgusting, look at how bad NetworkManager was / is on it, it's not that bad on Fedora (not that I like it that much) and the whole debarcle with them doing Unitiy on top of Gnome rather than contributing to the community projects, or recently when they released an update that broke al…
So much written, so little sense in that. Have you actually looked at Ubuntu, have you tried to use it? I'm not even going to go through your assertions one by one to debunk them, as most of them are wrong and unsupported by facts. Cheers.
he got some details wrong but the frustration is real, especially if you have anything slightly off standard, like a multi monitor setup or, god forbids, a touch screen.
Re: Ubuntu 16.04: “Out of memory” errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, Ubuntu still keeps running out of space in /boot by filling it w old kernels in the default partition profile. A bug that I've been hitting since about 2011. In spite of their best efforts, it is not the "grandma friendly" quality software it hoped to be.
I used to use this to clean boot. dpkg -l 'linux- ' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(. \)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ] \). /\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs -p sudo apt-get -y purge
What does it do?
Re: Ubuntu 16.04: “Out of memory” errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, Ubuntu still keeps running out of space in /boot by filling it w old kernels in the default partition profile. A bug that I've been hitting since about 2011. In spite of their best efforts, it is not the "grandma friendly" quality software it hoped to be.
I downvoted you for "grandma friendly." My grandma remembers when LaTeX was "new" and was one of the first people to professionally use computer-based typesetting. What exactly does "grandma friendly" look like to her?
Re: Ubuntu 16.04: “Out of memory” errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that the new behavior at zero (documented anywhere?) is a discontinuity. There should be a separate setting for mlocking code pages. Swap is useful even if you have plenty of RAM. It's better to swap out a cold file-backed page and use that page for cache instead than to pin that cold page in memory for no reason.
That's what ZRAM is for.
It's also what swap is for.
Re: Ubuntu 16.04: “Out of memory” errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59
#118If you want something similar to Ubuntu, but something that is much more stable, I highly recommend Linux Mint. I've been using it for about 4 years now and it's a delight. Very stable and doesn't give me a lot of issues after upgrades. Their upgrade-schedule and the upgrades itself are very conservative. They've based off a Ubuntu LTS, but I think they are starting to move away from that.
Linux Mint has issues - http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-...
Yes, a failure at safely distributing software is a pretty big failure when it comes to distributions.
Mint, elementary and the other "user friendly" distros should focus on creating the desktop and leave the distribution part to projects that have the resources and the staff to maintain the infrastructure.
Re: Ubuntu 16.04: “Out of memory” errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59
#119It's not just a bunch of people setting cm.swappieness to 0 is it? That behaviour changed and now prevents going into swap /ever/ where it used to mean go into swap as a last resort. Changing it to 1 fixes the issue and will act like the old behaviour or only swapping as a last result. Regardless, it's things like this why we never recommend people use Ubuntu - years of poorly packaged and tested software. If you wan…
Yeah, Ubuntu still keeps running out of space in /boot by filling it w old kernels in the default partition profile. A bug that I've been hitting since about 2011. In spite of their best efforts, it is not the "grandma friendly" quality software it hoped to be.
My old mother (born 1936) is using ubuntu since 2013. She can read her mail, answer or forward, view powertpoint, video and pictures, web surf, print stuf, write letters (its her most complex task). I use ssh and x11vnc for remote administration. It is the most simple setup I can imagine.
Re: Ubuntu 16.04: “Out of memory” errors after upgrade to 4.4.0-59
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you came from Arch, and thought FreeBSD had quite a learning curve? Hmm maybe I should rethink FreeBSD and stick with Mint.
FreeBSD is actually a much cleaner operating system than other unix-like clones. I have used it for a decade but my work required me to use linux. Best parts already mentioned in this thread (pf, jails, etc.) I would add one thing to the list: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?hier(7)
Since Cieplak mentioned systemd:
* https://freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/file-hierarchy....