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A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Does the 33% corporate tax rate and ~30% personal income tax rate (at a €30k salary) apply to them?

The system here is that you can get tons of subventions and tax credits for being in IT.

So yes, corporate tax and personal income tax applies, aswell as other stuff. You just have to figure out how much of this tax will be cancelled or refunded (usually this is the kind of infos that get shared in french startup networks).

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The timing can't be too much of a coincidence.

The issue is why can't France even attract engineers and investors from WITHIN the Eurozone, these people don't need Visa. The issue is elsewhere, not in the pool of engineers. France can't even retain its own engineers.

because London is sat next door with considerably higher salaries, and everyone there speaks English

not to mention setting up a company costs £14, 20% corporation tax (dropping to 17%), tax back for individuals investing in SEIS companies (which is easy for a firm apply for), and R&D tax credits

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

#113

Apropos of this, I was in Paris recently at a startup event, and was pleasantly shocked at the sheer number of startups and people I saw doing things. This is a good move by the French, and will help attract entrepreneurs away from other countries (particularly like those just across the channel currently inflicting generational economic damage on themselves.)

At CES's startup area Eureka Park, I was stunned by the French turnout -- with, of course, the usual wide variation in seeming quality or likelihood of finding a market you might expect, still it wasn't another row of VR headsets for my phone.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Warning : Highly sensitive subject Everyone who has ever done recruiting in a french IT company noticed that 80 to 90% of the resumes you receive come from North African countries (old colonies, mainly Algeria and Tunisia), that try to get a job in order to get a Visa. Most of them are unqualified, but they just "go for it". Now, is this initiative going to lead to most of them pretending to want to start a company ?…

There are only 70 start-up incubator visas available, so I assume competition is exceptionally fierce. This aside, for the engineer visas, it requires getting a job offer from one of the "100+ leading French Start-Ups", which means you presumably have to pass whatever requirements those hiring managers impose on you as well.

Ok, thanks for the info. For the engineer visas, I thought that obtaining a Visa once a company has agreed to hire you was already possible. So what's the difference with this program, in the "engineer" case ?

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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post #60

Don't go there. The limit of freedom of speech is real and can block you. Even when you run a startup that has nothing to do with local politics or anything controversial. Plus, we are still in "state of emergency", that gives the state more rights than the patriot act. Go to the US, Canada or New Zealand.

Freedom of speech issues in France ?? I'd say a good reason not to come here is bureaucracy and taxes, but not issues with freedom of speech... Do you have some facts you'd like to share ?

Maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten ?

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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post #60

Don't go there. The limit of freedom of speech is real and can block you. Even when you run a startup that has nothing to do with local politics or anything controversial. Plus, we are still in "state of emergency", that gives the state more rights than the patriot act. Go to the US, Canada or New Zealand.

Freedom of speech issues in France ?? I'd say a good reason not to come here is bureaucracy and taxes, but not issues with freedom of speech... Do you have some facts you'd like to share ?

Some opinions are not only socially incorrect, they can get you to jail. Examples of forbidden topics: homosexuals, non-white people, jews, saying that you don't need health insurance…

Of course not endorsing anything about those topics, just saying that forbiding any debate on those topics may not be a long-term solution to solve those societal questions. We get the popular far-right party FN for some reason I think.

Edit to bring "my damn sources": about health insurance http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/amendements/2252/AN/801... incitation to anorexia http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2015/04/02/97001-20150402F... saying you should not do abortion: https://www.senat.fr/questions/base/1999/qSEQ990415534.html for other topics, finding sources should be even easier

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's actually quite a lot of competition within EU, and France is not too shameful in that competition. It's hard to compete with London which is undoubtedly the #1 tech hub in Europe, but aside from that, Paris is top notch. Also, you're begging the question.

I would still pick Berlin or Amsterdam over France. Maybe even Sweden or Finland because of the average English language level spoken in those countries even though the startup scene there is smaller than Paris.

Yep, that's a valid point.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

#119

Apropos of this, I was in Paris recently at a startup event, and was pleasantly shocked at the sheer number of startups and people I saw doing things. This is a good move by the French, and will help attract entrepreneurs away from other countries (particularly like those just across the channel currently inflicting generational economic damage on themselves.)

As someone from the UK, my main reason for not moving anywhere else in Europe is the language barrier. I'm not even sure I'm capable of learning another language; 5 years in school trying to learn French + German, and can still only put together about two sentences. From what I remember, no one else seemed to really pick up the languages either.

Also from the UK and I have the upmost respect for anyone that can speak a second language. I find it incredibly difficult to get beyond a base vocabulary to actually being able to use the language without sounding like a cave man. I assume there'll be a "click" moment somewhere but its hard work getting there.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone from the UK, my main reason for not moving anywhere else in Europe is the language barrier. I'm not even sure I'm capable of learning another language; 5 years in school trying to learn French + German, and can still only put together about two sentences. From what I remember, no one else seemed to really pick up the languages either.

Learning a language in school is different from learning it by yourself. School is force-feeding you everything, at a pace possibly not suited for yourself. You might even start disliking something you liked before because grading and tests sucks the joy out of things. If you, on the other hand, start to learn a language now you can get quite far in a reasonable amount of time (months). Its the difference between ext…

This is so true - I hated with passion all that was force-fed to us, for some reason particularly stuff in high school. The only exception for whatever reason for me were foreign languages, physics and history (probably because they were easier for me to learn compared to rest).

It took years to find surprising interest (even passion) in things like biology, geography, or literature for that matter (chemistry is still a big mystery to me, although basic principles seem trivial). Grammar in any language is is still a big no-no.

It might seem ridiculous but if you pick an expensive language course, that adds some proper motivation (with added value of good teachers/materials).

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