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Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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post #50

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Can you file a bug on this with the URL causing the problem? The tab not loading fully isn't necessarily our fault, but of course it shouldn't use 100% while doing that. The rendering engine is fairly important for apparent speed and smoothness (e.g. with scrolling). These are issues where Firefox was traditionally not rated highly.

Done, thanks.

Do you mind linking to the bug report?

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#112
post #96

I thought it was interesting that they specify the Desktop Wallpaper is free. I wondered if anyone had ever paid for desktop wallpaper: apparently people do http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=desktop+wallpaper&LH_Com... I wonder if I could write a script to sell royalty free wallpaper on ebay, if all the sellers have the rights to the images they are selling, and what kind of person pays for wallpaper.

> what kind of person pays for wallpaper.

Non-technical users. I think that technical users often forget how lucky we are that we can make the assumption that often good, and sometimes even the best, tools are free.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#113
So many of these new features seem like really they should be window manager features. I am a user of tabs but I occasionally think they also should really be a feature of the window manager and not the browser.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#114

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window management is the operating system's job, not the browser's. you can do split screen in any browser by putting two windows beside each other.

That's true but there are counter examples: For instance, I'm very thankful that my text editor and terminal allow me to split panes within their window rather than through multiple instances handled by the OS. I seem to prefer having panes/tabs vs window instances when alt-tabbing. Especially if I have two browsers splitting my viewport and a couple full sized browsers. This makes it very annoying to alt-tab only be…

Try amethyst https://github.com/ianyh/Amethyst

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#115
post #71

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So you don't use bookmarks or tabs?

Why do you need bookmarks, either you google it again or can access it through some kind of chat... Tabs are nice though

in vivaldi you can ctrl-d to bookmark then shift-tab to set a shortcut name

in future you can just ctrl-t then shortcut name to go straight to bookmark.

yeah, it's bookmarks under the hood, but being able to just go 'ctrl-t' then 'webmail' or 'workmail' or whatever saves the convolutions of smartcomplete and autocomplete and displaying history or suggestions and such in the url bar.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

window management is the operating system's job, not the browser's. you can do split screen in any browser by putting two windows beside each other.

That's true but there are counter examples: For instance, I'm very thankful that my text editor and terminal allow me to split panes within their window rather than through multiple instances handled by the OS. I seem to prefer having panes/tabs vs window instances when alt-tabbing. Especially if I have two browsers splitting my viewport and a couple full sized browsers. This makes it very annoying to alt-tab only be…

Isn't that an argument for better window management, not redoing it in a slightly different way in every single application?

Of course, putting better window management in the OS would require the OS to offer hooks for 'new tab' etc, and then all the applications would have to be changed to use that facility instead of their own, which isn't particularly likely to happen any time soon.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#117
post #4

This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

Ahh, the paradox of being the market leader. Remember when Chrome tried to innovate with how we use bookmarks? [1] People cry out for innovation, but then freak out when said innovation happens. This is why disrupters are so successful - they can do something crazy and people will try it out and think - this is amazing. Because the mindset/psychology is that this is something new. But the market leader implements exa…

Why does it have to be constantly changing? What some see as stagnant, others see as completeness

Honestly I don't want new features on Chrome or Firefox. They are fine how they are -- though I wish Mozilla would take out the value-added services they just had to add. Release security updates and that's it

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#119
The in-browser split is good. The tab -> home too. The presentation is sub par to me, wasteful and cut for no reason.

Good ideas, pretty sure all browsers could copy that quickly but still, good ideas from Opera.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#120
post #4

This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

Ahh, the paradox of being the market leader. Remember when Chrome tried to innovate with how we use bookmarks? [1] People cry out for innovation, but then freak out when said innovation happens. This is why disrupters are so successful - they can do something crazy and people will try it out and think - this is amazing. Because the mindset/psychology is that this is something new. But the market leader implements exa…

I'd add a few things. When you're number one, people expect jesus like miracles from you. If you don't deliver, backlash occurs. Chrome new bookmark felt too much like a simple material UX without much to it. I still miss Firefox fully featured bookmark manager. I also think there's also lots of things to do here but alas.. I'm not at Chrome.
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