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He's joining Mozilla to fix Rust.
Care to elaborate what needs fixing there?
The joke is that the creator of Rust is now working on Swift.
Update on the Swift Project Lead
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Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead
#112Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead
#113Let's start speculating what he might do instead. I have a hunch that this might pursue some Bret Victor-esque product maybe something like Swift Playgrounds for the iPad but less educational and more dev oriented. But I'm basing that on relatively nothing.
Just saw that he is joining Tesla as VP Autopilot Software.
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#114Windows support ever coming? I love Linux, but have to use Windows for work due to strict IT policies. It really frustrates me that almost all the new exciting tech can't be accessed by me outside of the hobby world. To me, C# just isn't very productive. Great language, just not for me.
Try Rust. It's available for Windows.
Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead
#115He went to Tesla as VP of Autopilot SW. Really interesting! https://www.tesla.com/blog/welcome-chris-lattner
Great - maybe he can introduce a new programming language and/or associated tooling to the automotive world. It's quite depressing that all those systems are still built with a subset of C/C++. And often even not the safest subset, when I think about the dozens of variants of custom memory management that I have already seen implemented - with possibilites for OOM everywhere.
Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead
#116He went to Tesla as VP of Autopilot SW. Really interesting! https://www.tesla.com/blog/welcome-chris-lattner
This is seemingly quite a different technical skill set to have than his previous position. I'm curious as to whether Tesla wants to also transition to swift for automotive code, or whether Chris Lattner was already involved in apple's car project (project titan).
Either way, a big win for Tesla and quite a loss for Apple.
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#117Windows support ever coming? I love Linux, but have to use Windows for work due to strict IT policies. It really frustrates me that almost all the new exciting tech can't be accessed by me outside of the hobby world. To me, C# just isn't very productive. Great language, just not for me.
Have you given F# a try? :)
Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead
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It needs to compile (at least the C or C++ parts). Frequently the people who operate the software will want to make small changes.
I know from experience that it is possible to build Rust binaries that work on very old Linux versions. You could for example supply them with a Docker image with a new build stack which can produce binaries they could copy to the old machines. The same is likely true for Go.
Unfortunately docker couldn't be used on RHEL5, it requires 3.10 or newer. But a disk image/qemu could work.
Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead
#119I don't use or follow Swift, but Chris was also instrumental in the development of LLVM, which has become hugely important in all sorts of areas. Has he still been active in that while working on Swifty stuff, or have other people taken over there already?
Chris is basically just an occasional contributor to llvm code itself at this point, but serves heavily on the board.
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#120Aouch... And there goes my enthusiasm for this language.
I already felt weird knowing Apple didn't use swift internally for their core product, and seing all the huge bugs and crashes remaining in the swift compiler, now i'm left wondering who in the company is going to have sufficient weight to push this language forward.
EDIT : well, on the positive side, he's now free to make the language evolve without caring about the huge objective-c bridging layer and iOS-specific troubles...