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Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Win10 is ok, but there are two things that have turned me off:

1. The "Start" menu (tiles) have ads in them by default. I do not like this. 2. Connected Standby is still in development. To view advanced power management settings, set HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\CSEnabled to 0. If you are having connectivity issues on a Surface device, make this reg change, then reboot and uncheck "Allow the operating system to turn off" under the "Power Management" tab in the Marvell wifi adapter.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

#114
It's amazing. I used to hate Microsoft. I wasn't a programmer or even that technical but I still kept trying to use linux in college, I jumped on the reboot of Netscape/Firebird/Firefox, and I wrote a long essay comparing Bill Gates to a Robber Baron.

But this past couple of years they've just improved their offerings, particularly those for devs, incessantly. I was kind of on the fence about VSC vs Atom a year and a half ago. Now it's not only far faster but also a significant boost in productivity. Ubuntu tools are available from inside Windows. Office, the very program I most used to love to hate, is killing it.

I still have a macbook, but it's been gathering dust. The iMac 27" was my favorite computer I've owned but the Surface Studio has leapfrogged beyond it. Especially as a creative dev, it's hard to justify staying with Apple at this point.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

#115
I'm one of the people that switched from a MacBook Pro to the new Surface Book.

The ENTIRE experience was dreadful for me.

The day I went into the Microsoft store to purchase it (Black Friday), their credit card system was down, so I had to wait around for nearly 2 hours until they finally figured things out. That wouldn't typically upset me, but my brother-in-law went through something similar just 2 weeks prior. Aside from that, the reps in the store were constantly trying to up-sell me on different items and get me to purchase other things throughout the store. This is something that is extremely irritating to me and something that I appreciated the reps at the Apple Store not doing.

As far as the actual product goes - I found the trackpad to be lacking. It just FELT a bit buggy and non-responsive at times. I have yet to find a trackpad as solid as the ones that Apple ship. This became more apparent of time after using the product. Aside from the trackpad I don't have too many complaints, except for things that are of personal preference (I can't say I like the design / functionality of the snake hinge). I also realized, as mainly a pro user, that I don't have much use / need for the touch screen or tablet portion of the device.

Needless to say, I ended up returning the device and buying the new touch-bar 15" MBP a few days ago. Aside from how annoying it is to locate / use the touch-based Esc key, it's a really solid device.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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These PR pieces are getting funnier each day. Do people really want to switch from a rock-solid, sandboxed Unix to an inferior OS like Windows? Did people already forget the crazy days of regedit, zero app sandboxing, inconsistent installers, anti-viruses etc? I wish more people jumped ship to Linux instead of the Apple/Windows duopoly, but if wishes were horses...

Windows of today is not the Windows of 10 years ago, and the Apple of today is not the Apple of 10 years ago. Windows has improved considerably over the past decade, while Apple has shifted away from the professional market. It is realistic to believe that at least some people would switch platforms.

>> It is realistic to believe that at least some people would switch platforms.

I know "Post-PC" is the more popular buzzword, but "Post-OS" is probably a good one to use.

So much stuff is in the cloud these days that a lot of non-developers and non-creatives can probably use any OS these days without too much pain.

I switched to Windows from Mac a couple of years ago, and honestly, I don't miss it much. I did have to write off a pile of Mac software purchases, but I found reasonably priced alternatives that work as well.

If I get sick of Windows, I can easily transition to something else. Outside of some platform specific games, I can do just about everything I do now on another OS.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

#118
At the local mall if you go to the Microsoft store you might find 15 people in there, very empty feeling. Meanwhile, there are probably 3-400 in the Apple store.

>> More people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before. Our trade-in program for MacBooks was our best ever

You could trade-up with up to $650 credit for your working MacBook Pro or Air. I'm assuming they were giving similar values as you would with Gazelle or another service.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

#119

I would consider a Surface if I could install Linux on it and it worked as well as a my System76. In fact I'm asking: is anyone out there doing this?

I'm writing this on a Surface Pro 3, and I've commented on it before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9300927 I've been compiling the kernel since I got it, later figured out how to compile only the drivers I needed (specially the keyboard/touchpad) which was reduced over time as more and more drivers were built in. There was finally a guy that set up an Ubuntu PPA [1] repository from where you can install the w…

Dude! Thank you for your "disorganized" response! I'm kinda married to the 16 release of Ubuntu right now and it does not seem worth it yet for the Surface 3 Pro. I hope I will never have to run / use Windows again. Not enough hours in my life to make it worth ever going back.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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I'm one of the people that switched from a MacBook Pro to the new Surface Book. The ENTIRE experience was dreadful for me. The day I went into the Microsoft store to purchase it (Black Friday), their credit card system was down, so I had to wait around for nearly 2 hours until they finally figured things out. That wouldn't typically upset me, but my brother-in-law went through something similar just 2 weeks prior. As…

Trackpads are one of the main things that other companies just can't get right, even on premium devices. Given how long ago Apple 'solved' trackpads, I'm amazed that the rest of the industry hasn't caught up.
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