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Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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I've been using an HP Spectre X360 15" with a 4K touchscreen which is truly amazing. The only downside is that the one USB 3 port is not a thunderbolt port, making it not all that useful unless you get a dongle that allows you to plug in a regular USB cable.

Other than that, I've been enjoying it immensely and it made me stick to Windows at a time at which I really wanted to switch to Linux or MacOS.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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T460s only has partially replaceable memory, some of it is soldered on. And god help you if that fails outside warranty, spare Thinkpad mainboards usually cost more than a new laptop.

The '-s' models are all designed to be slimmer counterparts to the non-'-s' models. Apart from that, the T460 should be identical to the T460s; and I'd recommend the former instead of the latter for the same reason you mention.

Should, but isn't: The T460 has for inexplicable reasons no high-resolution (WQHD) display option, unlike the T460s and T460p.

Lenovo's model policy (23 different Thinkpad models this year with dozens of options each) is really insufferable.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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Important corrections: - Lenovo's ThinkPad line has decent laptops. Lenovo's more popular line, Ideapad, which are branded just "Lenovo", are terrible. - Dell XPS series are good, but if you're looking to run Linux on them, make sure to get the Developer Editions

Instead of XPSs, we bought Precisions 15 5000 at work [1]. They are basically XPS 15, (virtually indistinguishable apart for the engraving on the bottom), but you can spec them to bits (you can even get a Xeon processor if you want,have them with no OS / Ubuntu). All of us are reasonably happy with them. [1]: http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/precision-m5510-workstatio...

Another Precision user chiming in. I got one at work and after I updated the Intel video driver, I've had no complaints.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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Opportunities: - A Thunderbolt 3 dock that has all the missing ports in new MacBook Pro - Lenovo, HP, Asus release properly supported notebook with Linux similar to Dell XPS Developer edition. Makes desktop Linux available across PC industries. - Microsoft release Surface Pro and Surface Book with Mubuntu (MS version of Ubuntu, since MS already has working relationship with Canonical) - Cloud service via emulator tha…

Thunderbolt 3 dock coming soon: http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F4U095/

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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Can you elaborate? Why are the Ideapads terrible? Why get a Developer Edition?

The IdeaPads I had were not of low quality. They are plastic through and through, but high quality plastic. They feel reasonably solid and a reasonably priced. Obviously they are not carved from a solid block of magnesium alloy, like ThinkPads used to be.

My wife has one, and the trackpads on them are terrible compared to a MBP. I don't know how they compare to other laptops in the current Lenovo line.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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post #115
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Opportunities: - A Thunderbolt 3 dock that has all the missing ports in new MacBook Pro - Lenovo, HP, Asus release properly supported notebook with Linux similar to Dell XPS Developer edition. Makes desktop Linux available across PC industries. - Microsoft release Surface Pro and Surface Book with Mubuntu (MS version of Ubuntu, since MS already has working relationship with Canonical) - Cloud service via emulator tha…

Thunderbolt 3 dock coming soon: http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F4U095/

That is actually pretty neat, I've been wanting a macbook dock for ages and this is almost that...

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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Just got a Thinkpad T460s. Practically the same dimensions and specs of a X1 Carbon but with replaceable memory and disk. Can easily be made to have 20GB of RAM and 1TB of SSD, and if someone makes a 32GB DIMM could potentially go up to 36GB of RAM although that's not advertised as supported. Everything works in Linux just fine and the 2560x1440 screen looks great.

T460s only has partially replaceable memory, some of it is soldered on. And god help you if that fails outside warranty, spare Thinkpad mainboards usually cost more than a new laptop.

RAM is pretty reliable so I'm not really worried. One thing I just realized though is that 20GB is probably the absolute max for this machine. Since there are 4GB on the board and the chipset can only do 32GB it's pretty likely that 4+16GB will end up being the maximum.

I've opened the machine and it's a shame they don't just give us 2 DIMM slots and 2 (or 4) M.2 slots so you can just splurge on some more RAM+SSD goodness.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

T460s only has partially replaceable memory, some of it is soldered on. And god help you if that fails outside warranty, spare Thinkpad mainboards usually cost more than a new laptop.

RAM is pretty reliable so I'm not really worried. One thing I just realized though is that 20GB is probably the absolute max for this machine. Since there are 4GB on the board and the chipset can only do 32GB it's pretty likely that 4+16GB will end up being the maximum. I've opened the machine and it's a shame they don't just give us 2 DIMM slots and 2 (or 4) M.2 slots so you can just splurge on some more RAM+SSD goo…

If the T460 had the same display options available, it would be the perfect alternative: Two DIMM slots, two mass storage slots, two batteries, and still quite compact.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

RAM is pretty reliable so I'm not really worried. One thing I just realized though is that 20GB is probably the absolute max for this machine. Since there are 4GB on the board and the chipset can only do 32GB it's pretty likely that 4+16GB will end up being the maximum. I've opened the machine and it's a shame they don't just give us 2 DIMM slots and 2 (or 4) M.2 slots so you can just splurge on some more RAM+SSD goo…

If the T460 had the same display options available, it would be the perfect alternative: Two DIMM slots, two mass storage slots, two batteries, and still quite compact.

Seems slightly bulkier and 20% heavier, but that's not too bad. I wonder if the T460s panel works fine in the T460 if you're willing to do the swap.
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