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Re: MacBook Pro

#111

This trend of killing hardware buttons needs to stop. It's very inconvenient. The sense of touch is important for me. It's one of the annoying things I don't like about many Android devices and it seems that Apple is slowly transitioning to this as well.

They're probably working on some sort of next-gen haptic feedback interface.

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#112
post #24

The touch bar examples shown are a usability disaster. You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? I stopped looking at the keyboard every 10 seconds when I learned how to touch type. The presenter spent most of his time looking at the keyboard and not the screen. This gimmick will disappear when Apple decides a touch screen is needed to complete the slow me…

Agreed, but what if something else actually happened. Apple wants to broaden its Apple Pay integration. They decide to add touch id, and adding a black glossy button on the side throws of the aesthetic. So instead, they replace the entire bar.

Re: MacBook Pro

#113
post #87

No Displayport 1.3/1.4 means no 5k displays. :( Why spend thousands on a new device when you can't even use modern displays from a standard out since 2014?

A short segment of this event specifically showed the new Macbook Pro connected to dual 5k monitors.

Re: MacBook Pro

#114
>The space is a small multitouch screen that utilizes gestures and taps to perform a wide variety of different tasks

Oh, like trackpad gestures?

>from showing typing suggestions to displaying tools for various apps – all based on the context of what the user is doing at the time.

Oh, like a toolbar?

Re: MacBook Pro

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post #38
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I think the touch bar is gimmicky, but I have to give Apple credit for bucking the trend of hiding UI and making functionality more rather than less visible to users. The trend in the mobile OSs has been to hide more and more functions being hamburger menus (Android), toolbars that only pop up when you tap them (Apple Maps), cryptic flat icons, etc. It's totally undiscoverable. This is the opposite: context-sensitive…

Don't forget the 2014 X1 Carbon had a similar touch strip design that they reverted due to user backlash. It appears that the new MBP has a similar keyboard to the MacBook, if you're an Emacs user, you deserve a better keyboard.

I'm typing on a 2014 X1 Carbon now. Its touch-sensitive function row really is a disappointment. The inherent flaws in the design concept have all been elaborated in these discussions, but the X1C also had a poor implementation that Apple could easily improve on. For example, it takes almost a whole second to change modes, there's often a delay when tapping an icon, and sometimes taps just don't register.

Re: MacBook Pro

#117
post #24

The touch bar examples shown are a usability disaster. You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? I stopped looking at the keyboard every 10 seconds when I learned how to touch type. The presenter spent most of his time looking at the keyboard and not the screen. This gimmick will disappear when Apple decides a touch screen is needed to complete the slow me…

I think it has the potential to be an interesting alternative to a touch screen. Some of the examples did look modestly useful. I will, however, miss the volume and music forward/back keys which I actively use. Like anything else, I'll have to wait and see how it works in practice.

I've been holding off on updating my macbook pro, but I think I'm going to skip this generation and buy used. The lack of an nvidia gpu is a giant pita. You never get good cuda performance on a laptop, but it's nice to be able to test code on one.

If they expand up to 32g ram though I'm buying one the second they go live on the site.

Re: MacBook Pro

#120

I can't get over the ESC key. I need to experience it in order to make a final decision but even though it's "there" the position looks awkward.

In typical Apple fashion, there's a dongle for that. Sarcasm aside, I wonder how well this will work if you use Boot Camp. Does the TouchBar revert to a normal function bar when OS isn't in control of it? Let's say I don't use VMware, and I want to boot into Linux or Windows, what happens to the TouchBar? Installing Linux or non-OS X operating system could be made more difficult without function keys. And yes, VIM an…

Imagine you'd be able to buy a dongle with adhesive strip at the bottom in the shape of the touch bar. I am sure Shenzhen is already working on that.
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