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Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by joe5150 »

snarkyturtle wrote: post #102
OoTheNigerian wrote: post #36

I don't get it. Why not make it Twitter's Dedicated Video App as vine already has a strong network which can be built upon. Very soon Facebook will release their dedicated video app and Twitter will be looking clueless. I don't get big companies

Vine's limitations held it back. Square video and 6 seconds does not a good video app make. In order to appeal to businesses that would actually pay for video (ad agencies, news) they'd have to completely remake the app to account for different aspect ratios and videos longer than 6 seconds. When twitter.com already has videos that support those features why keep an antiquated app around?

Vine has had a "watch more" feature for longer videos in non-square formats for a while.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by dejawu »

What a shame.

Twitter has a unique position as a key point in culture and media. It's played key roles in BLM and the Arab Spring. It astounds me that they couldn't focus in on that and make revenue from that reliable core of people that, like me, turn to Twitter before anywhere else when something is happening. But I guess that didn't raise growth numbers, and that's what Wall Street wants to see. So instead they're making all these desperate moves, messing with the timeline and even considering removing the character limit - things that made Twitter special in the first place.

I can't help but think that Twitter could've gotten to where it is today without needing to shut down Vine, if it weren't so hell bent on being the next Facebook sized Internet giant.

Not every kingdom has to be an empire.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by lmm »

xyzzy4 wrote: post #99
sib wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is the last possible thing we'd want. We already have contract law that covers the case where a customer has paid a provider to provide a service and the service provider stops without delivering. But, in the case of a free service, where there are no commitments, service providers should be free to stop providing services whenever they want.

So you think it should be legal for Facebook to decide to shut down, for example? Why does what the investors want matter more than what the users want?

Because they own it, broadly speaking. I would not be at all averse to the government nationalising Twitter (e.g. after acquiring their assets when they go bankrupt, or by buying out the current shareholders), but while it remains a private or public company it should have the governance process of one.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by downandout »

mgkimsal wrote: post #98
pbreit wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks pretty clear that Facebook and Twitter are all-in on live video for the medium to long term. Twitter even has live broadcasting deals with NFL, MLB and NBA.

I'm not sure that translates to full support for any random twitter user to be doing 'live' broadcasts. It may not be a huge impact on the infrastructure, but when cost-cutting comes up again, unless they're monetizing it somehow, I'd expect "random joe live-video broadcasting" to be on the chopping block. MLB? NFL? NBA? I'm sure money's being exchanged to make it worthwhile to handle that.

Agreed. I wasn't including professional broadcasts in my comments about Periscope. There will always be a market for live pro sports, newscasts, etc.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by corobo »

mcbits wrote: post #87
corobo wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube is long form video though. Plenty of content to advertise on. Where are you going to cram ads in to vine without it being annoying enough for adblockers to nuke them?

They could sell one-second blipverts, offering the option of two seconds to advertisers with a history of positive engagement.

That's probably a very grey area heading towards subliminal advertising (at least, some lawyer somewhere could claim so). I'm not sure on the legal status of that sort of thing.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by jamesjyu »

jackfrodo wrote: post #26

This is really annoying. I don't and haven't ever used vine, but how much could it really cost to keep hosting it, and let people continue using it? Why can't companies be okay having products that are revenue neutral that make people happy?

It's difficult to motivate a team to work on a stagnating product.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by jamesgeck0 »

toxican wrote: post #88
Grue3 wrote: post #48

Never used Vine, and the videos from it never worked on my browser, but this is truly shocking. Like, Google Reader shutdown level shocking. Twitter is seriously clueless if they weren't able to make any use of such a popular service. Especially when Periscope is still running somehow. Though it's only a matter of time for that too now.

At this point Vine isn't really all that unique anymore. Facebook, instagram, snapchat and twitter all do what it did. I'm not very surprised by this at all.

I somehow had no idea that Twitter had a video function similar to Vine, and I use the app a few times a week.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by clintonb »

joe5150 wrote: post #111
snarkyturtle wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vine's limitations held it back. Square video and 6 seconds does not a good video app make. In order to appeal to businesses that would actually pay for video (ad agencies, news) they'd have to completely remake the app to account for different aspect ratios and videos longer than 6 seconds. When twitter.com already has videos that support those features why keep an antiquated app around?

Vine has had a "watch more" feature for longer videos in non-square formats for a while.

Too little, too late. I open the app about once every 1-2 months. I never knew about the "watch more" feature. At that point it's just like any other video app, begging the question of, "why use Vine"?

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by evanelias »

smpetrey wrote: post #56

(Sadly) We should've expected this the moment Twitter acquire Vine. The Vine team no doubt brought some amazing improvements to Twitter since 2012. Sad to see it go. It's kinda fun seeing a front-page of Vine at any date at the archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20151202002305/https://vine.co/

> We should've expected this the moment Twitter acquire Vine

Twitter acquired Vine before the Vine app/service initially launched. So I don't think that sentiment makes sense in this specific case :)

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