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FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes

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Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes

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Post by AstralStorm »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #90
eggy wrote: post #33

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Me too. I fly a lot, and the thought of a damaged battery, or somebody leaving their notebook in sleep mode, packed in a suitcase of flammable clothes with all of the other luggage gives me anxiety at times. If I have both laptops with me, I check the heavier one, but take the battery out and carry it on. I fly from Hong Kong to the US quite a bit (16 hours), so alternate landing sites are few and far between. That,…

Flammable clothes is kind of an oxymoron. Pretty much any textile intended to be work gets treated with flame retardants.

And they're washed off during the first machine wash. Your point is?

Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes

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Post by fastball »

flashman wrote: post #2

Here's the actual release: https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsI... Might as well just quote it in full: > In light of recent incidents and concerns raised by Samsung about its Galaxy Note 7 devices, the Federal Aviation Administration strongly advises passengers not to turn on or charge these devices on board aircraft and not to stow them in any checked baggage.

Wasn't it already advised by the FAA not to put anything with a battery in it in checked luggage?

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Post by UlyssesSKrunk »

kpao wrote: post #100
UlyssesSKrunk wrote: post #98

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Yep. I'm still using my galaxy s2. Had to replace the back twice and the battery once. Bought it in 2013. Total I've paid for my phone is about $50 over the last 3 years. It's really crazy how many people have been tricked into thinking they absolutely need to pay hundreds every year or 2 and that they need to pay dozens of dollars per month for service. Absolute racket.

Have you updated that phone regularly? I have one for testing here, and it's become so slow, I don't even know how one could use it every day... Even if they bring back removable batteries, software updates will take care of the deprecation. Just look at an iPad 2 with iOS9 today...

Oh god heavens no. Turning off updates was the first thing I did when I got my phone.

Re: FAA Urges Passengers to Not Use Samsung Galaxy Note 7 on Planes

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Post by brewdad »

ptaipale wrote: post #24
pkaeding wrote: post #13

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It seems unwise to gate-check a bag with a laptop anyway, given the way the luggage handlers throw bags around. Gate-checking a roller board suitcase with clothing is one thing, but I wouldn't check anything fragile or particularly expensive.

Sometimes there is no choice, e.g. in the case when I carry two or three laptops for work reasons, and the weight limit of carry-on baggage means only one fits in hand luggage. A laptop packed properly in a hard bag full of clothes isn't very likely to take any hit, though. If the baggage handlers run over it by a truck, then it may be damaged, but not in plane.

What airline actually checks the weight limit on carry-on bags? I've never had mine checked for weight and I carry a backpack that looks like it shouldn't meet the size guidelines, but does.

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Post by brewdad »

Xylakant wrote: post #73
wfunction wrote: post #63

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...well, I didn't see that one coming!

I know people that still believe that the power for cordless drills gets transmitted from the charger to the drill via something like wifi. They're super-careful not to stand in the LOS between the drill and the charger.

Some people probably shouldn't operate power tools. Then again, with that level of caution, they are probably safer than many "experts".

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Post by coldtea »

cozzyd wrote: post #104
kevinmgranger wrote: post #102

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I've yet to step foot in an airport that didn't have water fountains, and won't let you take an empty reusable bottle through security. There's no need to buy bottled water.

I don't remember any fountains in the Warsaw airport.

The exception that proves the rule (else it wouldn't be a rule, but a universal law that goes without saying)...

http://comicfury.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=26895

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Post by Filligree »

r_smart wrote: post #110
jschwartzi wrote: post #107

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Did it still hold a charge after you were done?

I confess I didn't try it. The whole casing had ruptured and was warped / distended. It wouldn't have even been close to fitting back in the phone. Also, passing current through it was the furthest thing from my mind. I assure you, it's not because I was embarrassed by my screwup and trying to clean up my mess as quickly as possible (plus feeling a little loopy from being gassed out).

I hope you went to a hospital to get checked out after that. Some of the gases from cooking li-ion batteries are poisonous, and can cause long-term damage.

Honestly, if you see a li-ion battery on fire, probably the best thing to do is to run. Throw it somewhere not-very-flammable if convenient, but get the heck out of there. And hold your breath.

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Post by abfan1127 »

madaxe_again wrote: post #57
bdcravens wrote: post #46

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I wonder why they aren't being banned, the way that hover boards were (though I believe the fire risk for the Note 7 is only present while charging)

Honestly, I've always scratched my head slightly at the fact that one is allowed to travel with an explosive device, so long as it also functions as a battery - yet bottled water is way out . It's trivially easy to make a lithium fire at 45,000 feet. Stamp on/bend an IMR 18450, and you have a torch which will burn through a window. Hell, you could probably just fold your phone in half - most batteries run the full he…

it isn't about safety. its about an illusion of effectiveness. 97% failure rate based on their own internal evaluations. If the water bottle was so dangerous, you wouldn't be allowed to throw it away in the trash can right next to the screeners.

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Post by JadeNB »

cozzyd wrote: post #104
kevinmgranger wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've yet to step foot in an airport that didn't have water fountains, and won't let you take an empty reusable bottle through security. There's no need to buy bottled water.

I don't remember any fountains in the Warsaw airport.

Heathrow, too, the last time I was there—though it was a long time ago. (I actually asked.)

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Post by abtinf »

794CD01 wrote: post #106
bdcravens wrote: post #46

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I wonder why they aren't being banned, the way that hover boards were (though I believe the fire risk for the Note 7 is only present while charging)

It would be unenforceable. You can't make airport staff verify that the passenger is using a Pixel C or Xperia Z4 rather than a Galaxy Note. You'd be lucky if they don't just call them all iPads.

Unenforceability doesn't seem to block FAA or TSA policy from making other policies..
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