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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by [deleted] »

zanny wrote: post #75
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought they might replace the headphone jack with a USB-C connector. Then they could do the same thing on the MacBook and it'd have two USB-C ports. But instead they chose Lightning, so now we have iPhone headphones and Android headphones. Why did it have to be this way?

> Why did it have to be this way? We could have a world where Vulkan was the one stop shop graphics API anywhere. Instead, we are in this situation where everything but Apple products supports / will support it. Why did it have to be this way?

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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by [deleted] »

zanny wrote: post #75
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought they might replace the headphone jack with a USB-C connector. Then they could do the same thing on the MacBook and it'd have two USB-C ports. But instead they chose Lightning, so now we have iPhone headphones and Android headphones. Why did it have to be this way?

> Why did it have to be this way? We could have a world where Vulkan was the one stop shop graphics API anywhere. Instead, we are in this situation where everything but Apple products supports / will support it. Why did it have to be this way?

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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by Longhanks »

ng-user wrote: post #58

> "Up to 5hr. of battery life on one charge" How the fuck is it acceptable to completely remove the jack and replace it with this 'superior' technology?

It's not like they're shipping a free adapter. You could also use a Bluetooth headset of your choice that has a bigger battery.

Or you could just buy a different phone. It's their product, what is "acceptable" is up to them.

(Yes, the first part is sarcasm.)

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by tarcon »

Esau wrote: post #81
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

To me, the biggest problem with this move is that you can't charge the device and listen to music with corded headphones at the same time. Unless there is some option I am unaware of. In any case, I just decided to replace my iPhone 5 with an iPhone 6s, which I should be able to find on sale.

The iPhone Lightning Dock offers a traditional headphone port for that use case.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by izacus »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #85
ceejayoz wrote: post #32

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> the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time Was that downward slope clear at the time Apple made the changes, though? I remember "no Flash on iPhone" being a major complaint of many pundits.

Dropping the DVD drive was also a pretty big thing at the time as there wasn't even a 'similar' alternative (another type of removable media the industry had switched to. In the past it seems when they drop technology it real does make the changeover period quicker. This time I'm not so sure it will but at the end of the day I don't think it matters. Most people use the headphones that come with their iPhone and they…

"Most" people do a lot of things, but that doesn't mean that use of proprietary patent protected communication standards doesn't really hurt innovation and customers in the long term.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by throwanem »

plg wrote: post #13

AirPods - so is walking around with a thing in your ear cool now? Around here it certainly still signals "I am a jackass"

This would be a thing in both ears, and a very unobtrusive thing at that. So maybe not as jackass-ish as the usual standard.

And that's maybe not wholly something I understand anyway, but sort of feel bad about regardless. I mean, I do wear one [1] during my commute so I can listen to podcasts without wires all over the place, and I'm really hoping iOS 10's speech recognition via crappy mics is good enough that I can integrate voice control into my exocortex. Does that suffice to make me an asshole? Or does it require that I use it to have loud conversations about business things? Or what? I'm not all that sure I grasp the nuance here.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Firegram-Mini-ear-Bluetooth-Headset/d... - it's about the size of the first joint of your thumb.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by dmix »

plg wrote: post #13

AirPods - so is walking around with a thing in your ear cool now? Around here it certainly still signals "I am a jackass"

Once it becomes widely adopted I doubt this will be much of a social issue. The value they provide is real. It's not some gimmicky thing. Tangled wires are extremely annoying and happens nearly every day I use them. Plus the wire gets in the way going jogging or caught on something with normal usage, etc etc. Lots of benefits to having wireless headphones.

Talking to yourself with a non obvious headset will always be awkward looking though.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by berberous »

FigBug wrote: post #89
acomjean wrote: post #42

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I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. Can you explain this?

iOS is used by lots of musicians. Musicians use lots of headphone cables to connect music equipment. Even if they use lightning, they now can't use an iPhone for some music app while performing, output the audio, and charge it at the same time.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by cozzyd »

FigBug wrote: post #89
acomjean wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. Can you explain this?

Presumably due to the lag from bluetooth combined with the inability to simultaneously charge and output sound.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by throwanem »

strictnein wrote: post #66
plg wrote: post #13

AirPods - so is walking around with a thing in your ear cool now? Around here it certainly still signals "I am a jackass"

Especially when they look like this: https://s.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2016/09/apple7-...

So, about the size of the current EarPods, except without the wire. Not sure I see the issue here.
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