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Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by dang »

o0-0o wrote: post #51
throwaway29292 wrote: post #32

He gave away, or atleast appeared to give, 99% of his wealth away. I can think of better PR stunts for much less money. He is still a net positive person for me, who inspires me more than most others.

He gave his own facebook stock to his own charity. If you've ever owned a corporation, you know just how cynical, contriving, and conceitful that move is.

That's a generically cynical statement that you don't seem to have any specific basis for. In such cases, for HN purposes you should practice the Principle of Charity and err on the side of giving others the benefit of the doubt. It won't affect Zuckerberg much, but it will make this community better.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by jseliger »

aresant wrote: post #27

The TL;DR of how Zuck wants to build FB's future w/his quotes: 1) "Connectivity, so getting everyone in the world on the Internet." 2) "The next one is AI. I think that that's just going to unlock so much potential in so many different domains." 3) "[The next computing platform] - I think that's going to be virtual reality and augmented reality." For all the flack that Zuck is getting in this thread he lays out a pre…

For all the flack that Zuck is getting in this thread

It's pretty safe to ignore most of the flack in this thread. Most people vote with their feet (or wallets, or eyeballs, or attention), and they've voted that they love Facebook, regardless of what a minority of people in this thread say or upvote.

Nerds have a cantankerous side and are as prone to virtue signalling as any other group. Those of us who read Slashdot ages ago may remember the Microsoft hate it hosted and the way every year was going to be the year of Linux on the desktop. Well, Microsoft is still here; Linux on the desktop is still a minority pursuit; and most people never cared that much about the OS they used.

The specific target nerd derision has changed some, but the form of the attack and disdain has not. Any company or country or person's haters is proportionate to its size. Look at what people do and how they behave rather than what they say.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by dang »

limsup wrote: post #55

His low point was when Yahoo offered to buy FB for a billion dollars. Dark times.

Please don't seek out uncharitable interpretations of what people say, when (as roymurdock has helpfully shown) the context makes it clear how unnecessary that is.

HN users sometimes feel that the rules are off when a rich and famous person is the target, but that misunderstands why we have the rules. It's not to protect the rich and famous, who (as cynics are fond of pointing out) don't need it, except of course insofar as they're human beings like anyone else. Rather, it's to protect the community from becoming a mean place that only mean people would want to be part of, and eventually not even them.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by xorblurb »

welanes wrote: post #109
a3_nm wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So who doesn't want that, right? What about privacy? Doctors in my country (France) are legally obliged to respect the privacy of their patients and the confidentiality of medical data. A third-party cloud service, not so much. Edit: To be more precise, I'm not saying that medical apps can't be done right. I'm just disagreeing with the implication that an efficient medical app is automatically a good thing.

Similar apps have been around a while - http://www.wired.com/2015/09/social-network-doctors-swap-gro... > And finally, if you’re worried about your own gnarly ER visit showing up on Figure 1, the app is very careful about patient privacy. Every time anyone uploads an image, the first thing they do is fill out a consent form. Figure 1 has an algorithm that automatically obscures faces, and tools that let the user eras…

A consent form for consenting to what?

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by teej »

welanes wrote: post #109
a3_nm wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So who doesn't want that, right? What about privacy? Doctors in my country (France) are legally obliged to respect the privacy of their patients and the confidentiality of medical data. A third-party cloud service, not so much. Edit: To be more precise, I'm not saying that medical apps can't be done right. I'm just disagreeing with the implication that an efficient medical app is automatically a good thing.

Similar apps have been around a while - http://www.wired.com/2015/09/social-network-doctors-swap-gro... > And finally, if you’re worried about your own gnarly ER visit showing up on Figure 1, the app is very careful about patient privacy. Every time anyone uploads an image, the first thing they do is fill out a consent form. Figure 1 has an algorithm that automatically obscures faces, and tools that let the user eras…

Figure 1 isn't really the same thing. It's not a diagnostic tool, it doesn't store PHI, and a human reviews every image before it's visible in the app. Figure 1 is closer to Instagram than it is to the Watson stuff which is all HIPAA compliant.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by xorblurb »

andrewcoover wrote: post #63
o0-0o wrote: post #47

There is no way on Earth that we get to these dreams on the financing of a company that makes money off advertising sugar water and diabetes drugs at the same time. Hypocrites much?

That same argument can be used against Google, Amazon, or just about any company that builds a platform.

Then it shall be used. And we shall be sad about that. And we are not talking about building a platform. Facebook is hardly a platform. We are talking about advertising.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by dang »

Noseshine wrote: post #59
lubujackson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interviewer: Another thing that I think Facebook has done exceptionally well is hiring, and I always tell founders that this is the thing you have to get good at. So how have you hired your team and what do you look for when you bring people on? Mark: If you think about it, I started the company when I was 19, so I can't institutionally believe that experience is that important, right, or else I would have a hard tim…

This wall of unformatted text you posted doesn't look like a good idea.

Yeah, that's not a good thing to do in an HN thread. The threads are supposed to be conversations. We've killed those comments.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

zpallin wrote: post #20
artf wrote: post #15

Am I the only one who see a some kind of deep emptiness in Mark's eyes?

He's talking about understanding facial expressions... and I'm reading his, and for some reason he just looks like he is about to cry the whole time. Not sure if it's because he is emotionally positive about the things he is talking about, or upset about something. I get like that sometimes when I speak about things that mean a lot to me, so maybe that's what's happening. It's hard to tell, because I don't know him p…

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Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by dang »

thefastlane wrote: post #94
zouhair wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And also be extremely lucky.

power and privilege help too.

That they do, but the problem with taking the conversation in this direction is that it gets us all thinking in terms of how some people have had it easier, instead of what we can do that's valuable of our own.
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