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Re: The rectangularness of countries

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For people who like complex borders https://www.google.be/maps/place/Baarle-Hertog/ This is a Belgian city enclave within the Netherlands with enclaves of the Netherlands within its borders

It really brings to mind "City and the City". https://www.amazon.com/City-Random-House-Readers-Circle/dp/0...

Really great book! Really one of the most interesting thing to come out in the past few years.

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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post #108

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There's the exclave Point Roberts, Washington ( http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0408/feature7/ ), which falls ever so slightly south of the 49th parallel.

I once visited Port Roberts just to see the border crossing. I drove in from the Canadian side, parked my car, and walked across the border into the U.S. without being challenged. No one asked for my passport. As far as I could tell, no one even noticed that I had crossed the border. But when I tried to walk back into Canada the Canadians gave me a pretty hard time and almost didn't let me back in. It was an interest…

I've visited there too. Drove in both directions, seemed like not a big deal.

I heard that kids there go to school in Blaine, which means 4 international border crossings every day!

Re: The rectangularness of countries

#113
post #80

For people who like complex borders https://www.google.be/maps/place/Baarle-Hertog/ This is a Belgian city enclave within the Netherlands with enclaves of the Netherlands within its borders

From Wikipedia: Some houses in the town of Baarle-Hertog/Baarle-Nassau are divided between the two countries. At one time, according to Dutch laws restaurants had to close earlier. For some restaurants on the border this simply meant that the customers had to move to a table on the Belgian side.

The border goes through some houses as well, and the country you're in is deemed as which side of the border your front door is on. Apparently there has been a house or two that moved their front door across the border, in order to benefit from lower taxes or somesuch.

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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post #80

For people who like complex borders https://www.google.be/maps/place/Baarle-Hertog/ This is a Belgian city enclave within the Netherlands with enclaves of the Netherlands within its borders

Wow. I feel like there should be a CGP Grey video about this. He has one about London vs the City of London and the weird US/Canada border. Someone also tried to tell me Norwood, Ohio is the largest city within a city (an enclave city), but I can't find a source on that anywhere.

Grey did make a brief video about countries within countries in his Bizzare Borders videos [1] which might interest you.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vui-qGCfXuA

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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The Netherlands have two islands in the Caribbean that is technically no different than any other "county" of the Netherlands.

which are these? as far as I understood (I lived in Sint Maarten for a couple of years once) the Netherlands Antilles are colonies only, unlike the French islands (Martinique and Guadeloupe mainly, but St Barts and St Martin too) which are overseas departments of France, and also considered part of EU.

The kingdom of the Netherlands consists of 4 countries: Aruba, Curaçao, St Maarten, and the Netherlands.

In name, they are each other's equal within the kingdom, but there is a 'slight' difference in size.

Also, 3 other islands in the Caribean are part of the Netherlands, the country: Bonaire, St Eustatius and Saba (but, if I have to believe Wikipedia, those 3 are not in the euro zone; the US dollar is legal tender in (part of) the country of the Netherlands)

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Netherlands)

The French have more overseas areas, and manage to make things complicated, too, with overseas departments, countries, territories, and collectives (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_departments_and_terri...)

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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post #95

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Wow. I feel like there should be a CGP Grey video about this. He has one about London vs the City of London and the weird US/Canada border. Someone also tried to tell me Norwood, Ohio is the largest city within a city (an enclave city), but I can't find a source on that anywhere.

Newark is completely surrounded by Fremont (California) and has over 40,000 residents and is over 13 square miles in area, so if it's not the largest, it's at least near the top. If we discount natural borders like the Pacific Ocean, Santa Monica borders only Los Angeles and has twice as many residents.

The City of Los Angeles has a really interesting shape:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Los+Angeles,+CA/@34.091182...

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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post #80

For people who like complex borders https://www.google.be/maps/place/Baarle-Hertog/ This is a Belgian city enclave within the Netherlands with enclaves of the Netherlands within its borders

There are many such enclaves between India and Bangladesh. http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2011/02/enclaves_betwe...

A lot of them are recently sorted out by the governments, by exchanging land.

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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post #91

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Our frontiers are sometimes a bit fuzzy to say the last [0] and there is also this place [1] where you can literally be in 3 countries at the same times [0] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3378842/Belgium-Neth... [1] https://www.google.be/maps/@50.7543794,6.0212649,17z

The second one is not all that interesting, as any country that borders more than 1 other country would have a point like that ;) Belgium should have 3

Not necessarily - If you have a body of water on the top and the bottom, and two different countries on each side, then there's no spot you can be in 3 countries at once. See: America

Re: The rectangularness of countries

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post #80

For people who like complex borders https://www.google.be/maps/place/Baarle-Hertog/ This is a Belgian city enclave within the Netherlands with enclaves of the Netherlands within its borders

Wow. I feel like there should be a CGP Grey video about this. He has one about London vs the City of London and the weird US/Canada border. Someone also tried to tell me Norwood, Ohio is the largest city within a city (an enclave city), but I can't find a source on that anywhere.

Theres also this place https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island which is disputed by Canada and Denmark. Apparently the Danes leave a bottle of schnapps for the Canadians and the Canadians leave a bottle of Canadian Club and a note saying welcome to Canada.
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