The conditions that has enabled a Trump like persona's, won't go away… show up to a ballot booth as many times as you want… see how well that worked for greeks, and soon the british. Maybe a sprinkle of metadata drone strikes within the continental US might fix things… only to be expected eventually after what delightful gifts we giveth others abroad and at home these past hundreds of years, but lets not suggest that no matter who wins this election, we will only see more of what we have seen so far, and as we all know, arms manufactures in dire times will sell to all parties :P
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#112This certainly doesn't match what I've seen. All the people who think Trump is unfit seem perfectly willing to say so. All of the people who support him seem to be completely sincere in their belief that Trump would make a good president. I don't see anyone giving any indication that they think Trump shouldn't be president, but that they're afraid to say so. There is no "charade," as the author puts it. It's possible…
From Sam Altman's post: Demagogic hate-mongers lead down terrible paths.
Demagogic hate-mongering has become the default mode of the political theater that now passes as "public discourse" in our media on both ends of the political spectrum. The new internet media gives strong incentives to that which gains attention, and nothing gains attention like outrage.
What's scary about Trump isn't that people are unwilling to speak out against him. What's scary is that so many people actually want him to win. Trump isn't the problem, Trump is the most visible and frightening symptom of a massive wave of ignorance and insecurity among the American electorate. He's the blood in the stool. Speaking out about how bad the blood is won't really help, you need to go in and kill the cancer that's causing it.
Blood in the stool is quite apt. The cancer is the incentive structure of our media. Let's face it, the current incentive structure of our media today is one in which things like Gawker thrive and anything which is actually substantive suffers a prolonged trickling death. Again, it's the incentives. Outrage politics and the current social media are just the high fructose corn syrup of the mind.
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#113If Colin Powell were to run on an independent ticket, who would the best running mate for him?
He led us in to a war on BS. He has no chance and no base.
Thank goodness none of the remaining candidates voted for that war and vehemently defended their decision till the late 2000s or they'd stand no chance in this race.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
"can't do his job because of his heritage": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKwps5fjjCY
You just quoted the reporter, not Trump! This was the same tactic used to claim that Trump said we should have all Muslims wear a mark in the U.S. A reported said that, then people said that Trump said it.
Trump: Jake, if he was giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't be talking to you this way. He's given me horrible rulings.
Tapper: But I don't care if you criticize him. That's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying is, if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job ...
Trump: I think that's why he's doing it.
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#115> Trump's casual racism, misogyny, and conspiracy theories are without precedent among major presidential nominees. He has said that a judge of Mexican descent couldn’t treat him fairly because of his heritage
Judge Gonzalo Curiel, the judge presiding over the Trump university case, is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association. La Raza is a group that advocates for a path to citizenship for all illegal immigrants.
> we should ban Muslims from entering the country.
Trump wants to ban Muslims from majority Muslim countries that are currently involved in prolonged wars which makes a comprehensive background investigation impossible to do.
> When his supporters beat up a homeless Hispanic man and cited Trump, he called them “very passionate”.
You forgot to mention all of the Trump supporters that get chased and beat up by Mexican flag waving protesters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/0...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2...
This by no means justifies violence on the Trump supporters side, but please do some research to find out the majority of the violence is perpetrated by the protesters that show up to Trump rallies and not the other way around.
I can go on and dismantle every other premise in this article using data and logic, but I will stop here.
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#116While I think Trump is a bad choice, I think comparing him to Hitler is overzealous and irresponsible. There are no doubt similarities between the two but Hitler wrote an entire book about the "Jewish Peril" and how it was destroying society and needed to be dealt with. It was clear that Hitler had an agenda that was anti-semetic, and the charisma/ability to execute on it. Trump is a racist and a bigot, but he is far…
By my reading he wasn't attempting to set up Trump in direct comparison to Hitler. His focus was more on comparing the their manipulative rhetorical styles and negative psychological tactics. And on the need for people in his "camp" to stop pretending that they can be silent in the face of what Trump is doing -- without being effectively complicit in it.
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#117This certainly doesn't match what I've seen. All the people who think Trump is unfit seem perfectly willing to say so. All of the people who support him seem to be completely sincere in their belief that Trump would make a good president. I don't see anyone giving any indication that they think Trump shouldn't be president, but that they're afraid to say so. There is no "charade," as the author puts it. It's possible…
> Trump is the most visible and frightening symptom of a massive wave of ignorance and insecurity among the American electorate. The issue is not the massive wave of ignorance and insecurity, the issue is that those people will procreate more ignorant and insecure people and the issue will never end. We have a system where the well-thought vote of an educated person has the same value than the sensationalism-based vo…
the issue is that those people will procreate more ignorant and insecure people and the issue will never end.
Highly procreative undereducated underclasses have long been a staple of American life. Give people enough resources and opportunities, and they will often better themselves. What you are seeing is what happens when you economically squeeze people.
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#118Trump is a very annoying obnoxious person. But he's not a mass killer or compulsive liar. He doesn't hold grudges, he makes deals. Clinton however has a grudge list of her enemies and there is a long history of her enemies getting knocked off. She's a narcissist, a psychopath, a bully, and she is bought and owned by corporations which don't believe in free trade or capitalism on an even playing surface, but believe p…
> Following this, this country will be completely destroyed by her actions.
I love how much hyperbole exists in the US election. It's like you don't believe you're electing the commander and chief of the military and someone who gets to veto congress but your actually electing the next God of America who will smite whomever doesn't worship them. It's absolutely crazy.
Whomever gets elected, life will pretty much go on as it always has. I'm not saying that there are no differences but there won't be a dissolution of the Union or burning lakes of fire.
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#119Trump supporter here. If Trump is not elected I will be very concerned for the future of this country. Not sure why any real American would not vote Trump.
Please define "real American" for me[0] http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman
Any American who wants prosperity and safety for our country
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#120Finally someone speaking up. Based on the plethora of bad news I keep reading about the US (CIA, FBI, ISPs, Hillary Clinton etc) which portray a very dark picture about Americans, one of them being taken advantage of by their own system. And yet no one doesn't seem to be doing anything and it makes them look egoistic so I really admire Sam for writing this. He has a lot to lose by voicing his concern and yet he's doi…
I don't think he really has anything to lose. The government isn't going to do anything to him, even if Trump wins. And among his peers, I'm sure that criticizing Trump as being unfit for office is about as controversial as insulting the taste of Bud Light.
I didn't mean it that sense. People in the US tend to always bring a person's employer into the picture whenever they disagree with said person's opinion. So his public opinion can affect ycombinator.