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Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by blue11 »

ulfw wrote: post #87
dominotw wrote: post #68

>This really makes me consider moving my family to Zurich. If you immigrate to America you can become an American. You can shop till you drop, eat mc donlads, celebrate 4th of july and call yourself an american. This can not be said for any other country. In Germany you will always be an "immigrant", maybe if your kids are white and young enough to pick up the language maybe they can become invisible. But for anyone…

Completely disagree on that. Lived ten years in California. Studies, Green Card etc. Could have gone for citizenship, but didn't. I was never seen as an American. Ever. Not even a little bit. I was always 'the German'. Almost every coffee shop, restaurant, super market, you name it I got asked where I am from or where my accent is from. No. It is not cute. It reminds you you are NOT one of them.

"Could have gone for citizenship, but didn't. I was never seen as an American."

Perhaps you were not seen as an American because you yourself didn't feel that way? I would think that someone who feels American would apply for citizenship given the opportunity. American citizenship does not bring many additional advantages compared to the green card, in fact, there are some downsides (jury duty, potentially having to pay US taxes even if you leave the country). So, most immigrants apply for US citizenship only if they feel that they belong.

I agree that people asking where your accent is from is really annoying, however, that question doesn't have the same implications as in, say, Germany.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by tdaltonc »

spacecowboy_lon wrote: post #42
planetjones wrote: post #30

A good sign of commitment by Google to their Zurich office - recently the Swiss papers had stories of Google looking towards building their London office, due to limitations in acquiring work permits for staff in Switzerand. This news somewhat contradicts it; Zurich really is an attractive location for talent to flock toward.

Zurich attractive? - I though it might be Google hedging its bets in the event of Brexit. Though Cranfield CIT and half way between Oxford and Cambridge woudl have been another good choice. - they could even have taken RAF Twinwoods over as a site for a DC as it has a direct link to the Grid.

If they thought that Brexit would have a big impact on their business, they could just wait a couple weeks to announce anything.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by joeyoung »

yunque wrote: post #37
tluyben2 wrote: post #11

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Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Berlin, Munchen, Madrid, Barcelona London (for now), hell even Malaga are tech friendly and much easier (in my experience, but that is totally a matter of taste: I find Swiss too stiff) to settle. Really wondering where you are from. Edit: fixed Barcelona

Malaga? I visit every year, and last time I checked there was only Ericsson, Siemens and a group at the university doing human centred robotics... A quick online search leads me to the MalagaMakers meetup (which unfortunately has been quiet since January) and a few small tech companies. Do you know of any hubs or interesting companies there? I certainly noticed the city becoming a bit more modern in recent years, wit…

Oracle is also next door to Ericsson in Parque Tecnológico Andalucía (PTA) but I don't know if they do development there or just sales. It seems a lot of the tech stuff is done in conjunction with the local university. I'm relocating from Malaga back to Tokyo myself after enjoying 2 years here.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by s3nnyy »

chrisper wrote: post #104
tomp wrote: post #70

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Clearly it's still beneficial for some people.

It's not. He will stop responding to messages if it's clear to him that you can't make him any money. I contacted him once and he responded 3 months later and then stopped responding when it became clear I am not ready to move to Zurich just yet.

If this happened, I am sorry for this. I am not doing this full-time and I am sure that people fall through the cracks.

I refer people not only to companies that pay me but also to companies in Zurich that do not pay me, if I see that there is a great fit.

In Switzerland I learned to think longterm: If the candidate is happy, he will come back to me in 2-3 years.

Again, I am very sorry that I forgot you.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by dominotw »

ulfw wrote: post #87
dominotw wrote: post #68

>This really makes me consider moving my family to Zurich. If you immigrate to America you can become an American. You can shop till you drop, eat mc donlads, celebrate 4th of july and call yourself an american. This can not be said for any other country. In Germany you will always be an "immigrant", maybe if your kids are white and young enough to pick up the language maybe they can become invisible. But for anyone…

Completely disagree on that. Lived ten years in California. Studies, Green Card etc. Could have gone for citizenship, but didn't. I was never seen as an American. Ever. Not even a little bit. I was always 'the German'. Almost every coffee shop, restaurant, super market, you name it I got asked where I am from or where my accent is from. No. It is not cute. It reminds you you are NOT one of them.

>Almost every coffee shop, restaurant, super market, you name it I got asked where I am from or where my accent is from.

Yea we have people here from all over the world. Why is that question offensive? You seem to be assuming that that question is being asked to point out that you don't belong here.

I love asking people where are they originally from and try to impress them with trivia about their country that I know , being a world history enthusiast.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by s3nnyy »

tobltobs wrote: post #110
s3nnyy wrote: post #97

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I am the tech-recruiting agency and I only recommend jobs at companies I would work for myself (I am a software engineer with a master in CS from one of the top-3 schools in Europe). Sorry that I appear spammy, my motivation is truly to add value to HN and provide actionable information to those who are interested. I will try to be more modest in the future.

> I am the tech-recruiting agency Your are not only spamming. Neither your touted blog entry nor your fastmail email address do give any hints that you earn provisions for your "help", quite the contrary they sound like you would be a ordinary developer working for one client. And sorry, you don't get a _good_ job in Switzerland via a german headhunter in his twenties. > master in CS from one of the top-3 schools in…

I am a software engineer and I do recruiting in my free time.

I refer people not only to companies that pay me but also to companies that do not pay me, if I see that there is a fit.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by s3nnyy »

chinathrow wrote: post #31
s3nnyy wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am well-connected in the tech-scene in Zurich and if you're thinking of moving here and getting an IT job, feel free to contact me - you find my email address in my HN profile. Also you can read my blogpost "8 reasons why I moved to Switzerland to work in IT": https://medium.com/@iwaninzurich/eight-reasons-why-i-moved-t...

Are you a recruiter?

Full time engineer; part-time recruiter.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by gwildor »

zerr wrote: post #103
defen wrote: post #81

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Most Dutch people I've met speak better English than a good percentage of Americans...

Actually, they have quite an American accent. Because they watch a lot of American shows in original language, as they explain.

This is true. Because we're such a small country, dubbing isn't viable (adding subtitles is cheaper). And I'm glad for it, because I can't stand dubbed things, but that might just be because I'm not so used to it.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by s3nnyy »

esac wrote: post #23
s3nnyy wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am well-connected in the tech-scene in Zurich and if you're thinking of moving here and getting an IT job, feel free to contact me - you find my email address in my HN profile. Also you can read my blogpost "8 reasons why I moved to Switzerland to work in IT": https://medium.com/@iwaninzurich/eight-reasons-why-i-moved-t...

you answer mails aswell?

Going through my mails right now, trying to finding out who fell through the cracks.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by freyir »

blub wrote: post #66
make3 wrote: post #49

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10 interviews? is that normal for a research job? that feels like a lot

Apparently Apple, Google & co have so many applicants that they can do whatever they want. How incompetent can one be at interviewing to need 10 or 20 interviews?! Soon they'll make candidates crawl through broken glass.

> How incompetent can one be at interviewing to need 10 or 20 interviews

Yes, after a full day of interviewing and five interviews, presumably preceded by phone interviews, the people responsible for hiring should be capable of reaching a decision.

I've found that hiring managers who don't value your time lead to managers who don't value your time. They say they want to screen for the best and brightest, but maybe they really want people who are subservient and willing to jump through hoops.

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