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Re: Sunrise is shutting down

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Slightly shameless self promotion: If you're looking for an Android solution, we're working on TimeFerret, a calendar app that helps you reduce fragmented meeting schedules and track productivity. It's not released yet though. The iOS version will be out first, followed by Android. [1] http://www.timeferret.com

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Re: Sunrise is shutting down

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My Exchange server is 15 feet down the hall. When I use a normal Exchange client, the only people who can see my data in clear-text are myself and my employer (who owns the Exchange server). Anyone in-between just sees an encrypted stream. But when I use Outlook for iOS, people I've never met at Amazon and Microsoft can see my email. I think the former situation creates a legitimate expectation of privacy. I think th…

Something visible to anyone in your employer's management -- hence work email in general -- doesn't have an expectation of privacy.

The company has an expectation of privacy with respect to those emails. Its employees aren't third parties with respect to it.

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Sometimes there are no great alternatives :( I still use Sparrow for email on Mac. Would use it on iOS too, but it's quite buggy in iOS9. Spark is _almost_ as good as Sparrow on iOS, but it's free which makes me wonder whether they're doing some kind of data mining for revenue and how long they will be around. P.S. +1 for fantastical, it's great!

Nylas N1, Airmail, Canary, or Polymail. Take your pick. Personally, I use Nylas since it's open source and the extensibility of it is awesome.

Thanks for the suggestions! I've tried Airmail but I found it quite sluggish. The others a new to me.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

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Something visible to anyone in your employer's management -- hence work email in general -- doesn't have an expectation of privacy.

The company has an expectation of privacy with respect to those emails. Its employees aren't third parties with respect to it.

Okay, but if you're going to accept that kind of situation as creating an expectation of privacy across several parties, then you can just as well say that Google + me have an expectation of privacy with respect to my Gmail communications.

And yet somehow there's always someone saying, "well, you let Gmail employees run programs that aggregate data over its contents, therefore it's not really violating your privacy when a government investigator looks at them without a warrant". Which is it?

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

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I agree but the current model is broken. I buy FantastiCal, don't like it, I've just thrown money down the toilet. Yeah yeah you can go through iTunes and get it back but that feels like a dick move, and how many actually know the procedure anyway? It's not exactly advertised. I throw a quid down the toilet? That's fine, I don't mind. I throw a fiver or a tenner? Woah dude, that's like, a Starbucks latte! Totally dif…

> I throw a quid down the toilet? That's fine, I don't mind. I throw a fiver or a tenner? Woah dude, that's like, a Starbucks latte! Totally different (or not, but hey, that's what it feels like). http://theoatmeal.com/blog/apps

Well spotted. Note how that strip is from 2011, it was a bit of an old joke at the time already, and nothing has changed. Or rather: app-developers now route around this perception with IAP-whaling, which makes everyone sad and doesn't really map to "real" apps anyway. A trialware model would be better for everyone.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

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post #116

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> I throw a quid down the toilet? That's fine, I don't mind. I throw a fiver or a tenner? Woah dude, that's like, a Starbucks latte! Totally different (or not, but hey, that's what it feels like). http://theoatmeal.com/blog/apps

Well spotted. Note how that strip is from 2011, it was a bit of an old joke at the time already, and nothing has changed. Or rather: app-developers now route around this perception with IAP-whaling, which makes everyone sad and doesn't really map to "real" apps anyway. A trialware model would be better for everyone.

> A trialware model would be better for everyone.

I agree.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

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post #115

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The company has an expectation of privacy with respect to those emails. Its employees aren't third parties with respect to it.

Okay, but if you're going to accept that kind of situation as creating an expectation of privacy across several parties, then you can just as well say that Google + me have an expectation of privacy with respect to my Gmail communications. And yet somehow there's always someone saying, "well, you let Gmail employees run programs that aggregate data over its contents, therefore it's not really violating your privacy w…

The difference is ownership and control. The company owns its exchange server. It allows employees access under controlled conditions, for the employer's purposes. It's like leaving stuff in your garage that your lawn guy might have access to. But the company doesn't own Google's server. It has little control over how Google accesses that data. And Google accesses that data for its own purposes. That's more like leaving your stuff in someone else's garage.

Now, Google has a 4th amendment right with respect to "your" mail sitting on its servers, even though its employees have access to it. Because it's really "Google's mail," stored on Google's property, under Google's control.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

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Sometimes there are no great alternatives :( I still use Sparrow for email on Mac. Would use it on iOS too, but it's quite buggy in iOS9. Spark is _almost_ as good as Sparrow on iOS, but it's free which makes me wonder whether they're doing some kind of data mining for revenue and how long they will be around. P.S. +1 for fantastical, it's great!

Nylas N1, Airmail, Canary, or Polymail. Take your pick. Personally, I use Nylas since it's open source and the extensibility of it is awesome.

+1 for N1. Great software that keeps getting better.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

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Submitted this to Our Incredible Journey [1] which documents a long string of services shut down post-acquisition. [1]: http://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/

Why is this site so hard to read?

Because some of the screenshots are JPEG format. JPEG compression has trouble with sharp edges.
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