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How do you know it's an attack and not just a statement of fact?
Its an attack whether or not its a statement of fact.
What makes it an attack?
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Is calling a black person "nigger" really equivalent to calling a woman "milf"? Somehow I think that analogy just confuses the issue.
I can't speak for the person you're replying to, but I think he's stating that there's lines in the sand that once you cross, sitting with HR and watching some dumb training videos and reading some policy documents is no longer sufficient recourse. > Over the weekend... He asked to take the conversation off Slack (moved to Whatsapp) and asked if they could hang out (she said, "sure as friends in work context"), refer…
Lets compare to a similar situation but without this being about men vs women. Two co-workers go to a bar, and gets into a physical fight. During the fight, one of them call the other something really inappropriate like n__gger or s_ut.
Do you fire both instantly the next day? Physical fights and insults are both unprofessional, and as a zero tolerance policy, that means they need to be let go instantly. Do you only fire the insult throwing employee? Do you talk to either one of them before issuing the boot?
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't speak for the person you're replying to, but I think he's stating that there's lines in the sand that once you cross, sitting with HR and watching some dumb training videos and reading some policy documents is no longer sufficient recourse. > Over the weekend... He asked to take the conversation off Slack (moved to Whatsapp) and asked if they could hang out (she said, "sure as friends in work context"), refer…
Lets compare to a similar situation but without this being about men vs women. Two co-workers go to a bar, and gets into a physical fight. During the fight, one of them call the other something really inappropriate like n__gger or s_ut. Do you fire both instantly the next day? Physical fights and insults are both unprofessional, and as a zero tolerance policy, that means they need to be let go instantly. Do you only…
Going into another anecdote just confuses the matter. Like most interpersonal issues, the specific context and actions are important.
I will say that the scenario that you've created is markedly different.
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If it's not an attack then everything you've said on this thread is invalidated. You may not be sticking up for Patrick, but you are sticking up for something. In the absence of an attack, it's unclear what.
It's absolutely an attack.
What makes it an attack? If what it says is true, it sounds like Patrick also engaged in an attack. Why isn't he so vehemently sanctioned?
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It's absolutely an attack.
What makes it an attack? If what it says is true, it sounds like Patrick also engaged in an attack. Why isn't he so vehemently sanctioned?
I read the linked post. Patrick wasn't even addressing Mz or a comment of Mz. On the face of it, it looks like Mz read too much into it.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes it an attack? If what it says is true, it sounds like Patrick also engaged in an attack. Why isn't he so vehemently sanctioned?
I read the linked post. Patrick wasn't even addressing Mz or a comment of Mz. On the face of it, it looks like Mz read too much into it.
I didn't see such a post - what are you referencing?