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Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by ratboy666 »

tn13 wrote: post #20
SteveNuts wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Can you expand on that please?

Elon Musk's rich people's gadgets are heavily subsidized by American government (read average Americans). American government is paying around $8k per car to Musk. A lot of this money seems to be wasted to adding swag to this car that gets Musk some positive PR if nothing else. It is stupid to point out that this might help China or some other polluted country, why should Americans pay for it ? Very likely China will…

I am having a hard time understanding your reference to China.

Yes, China is "into" electric personal transportation.

http://qz.com/137518/consumers-the-world-over-love-electric-...

Yes, China has 200 million electric bicycles. At that adoption rate, I would have expected 50 million electric vehicles on the road in the US.

But, the USA appears to be in love with the car. China has 128 cars/1000, USA has 809 cars/1000.

For a great many people, the electric bike would be a great transportation option -- cheap and clean. However, there is no way to compete with China in manufacturing these.

The only hope the USA has is Tesla.

For this reason, I would expect subsidies! USA manufacturing, possible exports, and a cleaner environment.

I personally use an electric bike, for which I received no government rebate... but, I don't have to pay for gasoline, or insurance, so I come out ahead anyway.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by kragen »

jonlucc wrote: post #108
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #99

I think they are not testing with small enough particles. In the article, they test with PM 2.5 particles which would be around 2.5 micro meters. However, if you look at the table on page 11 of http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/409903O/respiratory-prote... Potential bio weapons such as smallpox, anthrax, influenza and the hemorrhagic viruses are far smaller than 2.5 microns. Also, there are probably issues with the…

I also haven't thought of a case in which it matters to protect the interior of the car. I can't live in that car for more than a couple days without resupply (assuming I'm driving around with several cases of water which would be more than a little paranoid), so at some point I have to expose myself to the pathogens present on the outside of the vehicle.

In a couple of days, you could drive 3000 km away from the bioweapon attack, if you don't run out of battery. Even on a single charge, the Tesla's range is 370 km. Typically 1 km is more than enough to escape a bioweapon plume.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by JshWright »

kragen wrote: post #112
jonlucc wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also haven't thought of a case in which it matters to protect the interior of the car. I can't live in that car for more than a couple days without resupply (assuming I'm driving around with several cases of water which would be more than a little paranoid), so at some point I have to expose myself to the pathogens present on the outside of the vehicle.

In a couple of days, you could drive 3000 km away from the bioweapon attack, if you don't run out of battery. Even on a single charge, the Tesla's range is 370 km. Typically 1 km is more than enough to escape a bioweapon plume.

In the event of a large scale bioweapon attack, every HazMat team within the range of a Tesla's battery will be busy dealing with the original incident. How do you plan to exit a contaminated car?

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by kragen »

JshWright wrote: post #113
kragen wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a couple of days, you could drive 3000 km away from the bioweapon attack, if you don't run out of battery. Even on a single charge, the Tesla's range is 370 km. Typically 1 km is more than enough to escape a bioweapon plume.

In the event of a large scale bioweapon attack, every HazMat team within the range of a Tesla's battery will be busy dealing with the original incident. How do you plan to exit a contaminated car?

Before the hazmat teams arrive! What, are you going to wait around in the danger zone and keep breathing spores? I'll adopt your kids if they're good at scrubbing floors and cooking.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by JulianMorrison »

jonlucc wrote: post #108
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #99

I think they are not testing with small enough particles. In the article, they test with PM 2.5 particles which would be around 2.5 micro meters. However, if you look at the table on page 11 of http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/409903O/respiratory-prote... Potential bio weapons such as smallpox, anthrax, influenza and the hemorrhagic viruses are far smaller than 2.5 microns. Also, there are probably issues with the…

I also haven't thought of a case in which it matters to protect the interior of the car. I can't live in that car for more than a couple days without resupply (assuming I'm driving around with several cases of water which would be more than a little paranoid), so at some point I have to expose myself to the pathogens present on the outside of the vehicle.

In real life, it will keep out smog and pollen. People with asthma and hay fever will love it.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by e12e »

JshWright wrote: post #113
kragen wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a couple of days, you could drive 3000 km away from the bioweapon attack, if you don't run out of battery. Even on a single charge, the Tesla's range is 370 km. Typically 1 km is more than enough to escape a bioweapon plume.

In the event of a large scale bioweapon attack, every HazMat team within the range of a Tesla's battery will be busy dealing with the original incident. How do you plan to exit a contaminated car?

Well, you could drive around with water and a haz-mat suit in the car. Put the suit on, walk from the car to a decontamination shower. Or drive your car into a purpose built car-wash (I'm not sure it'd have to be purpose built, even. There are a number of chemicals and temperature ranges that are not so good for a human in a haz-mat suit that'd work well on a sealed car).

At any rate, I suspect that if you're the kind of paranoid elite that worries about escaping a bioweapon attack in your Tesla, you'll have your own converted nuclear silo to use as a safe-house. Presumably with suitable decontamination showers (for vehicles and people) at the entry points.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by nazgob »

tzmudzin wrote: post #92
toomanybeersies wrote: post #90

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It also appears that the tank is not waterproof, as you can see quite substantial leaking at around 30 seconds in.

Correct. The commentary says it's equipped with 2 water pumps to remove whatever leaks through. I guess that's German engineering for less-than-perfect road and maintenance conditions. I like the redundancy too!

Learn something everyday, quite surprising that solution with pumps was even considered and that it actually safe for crew and tank internal systems.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by hinkley »

kragen wrote: post #114
JshWright wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the event of a large scale bioweapon attack, every HazMat team within the range of a Tesla's battery will be busy dealing with the original incident. How do you plan to exit a contaminated car?

Before the hazmat teams arrive! What, are you going to wait around in the danger zone and keep breathing spores? I'll adopt your kids if they're good at scrubbing floors and cooking.

You're the guy in the epidemic movies that breaks quarantine and kills another million people by sneaking the pathogen out of the hot zone.

Man I hate that guy.

If you breathed spores you're already infected. Your car can't help. And the spores on the outside get spread, plus the ones in your filter kill your automechanic and that starts the second wave.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by [deleted] »

kragen wrote: post #112
jonlucc wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also haven't thought of a case in which it matters to protect the interior of the car. I can't live in that car for more than a couple days without resupply (assuming I'm driving around with several cases of water which would be more than a little paranoid), so at some point I have to expose myself to the pathogens present on the outside of the vehicle.

In a couple of days, you could drive 3000 km away from the bioweapon attack, if you don't run out of battery. Even on a single charge, the Tesla's range is 370 km. Typically 1 km is more than enough to escape a bioweapon plume.

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Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by JshWright »

kragen wrote: post #114
JshWright wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the event of a large scale bioweapon attack, every HazMat team within the range of a Tesla's battery will be busy dealing with the original incident. How do you plan to exit a contaminated car?

Before the hazmat teams arrive! What, are you going to wait around in the danger zone and keep breathing spores? I'll adopt your kids if they're good at scrubbing floors and cooking.

It's not the arrival of the HazMat team that makes the car unsafe to exit... It is the contamination present on the outside of the car. You are bringing the 'danger zone' with you (and exposing countless other people who would not have otherwise been exposed as you drive around)
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