The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health

Post by dsmithatx » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 4:47 PM UTC

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(1) Not really. The liver does a good job of handling small amounts of fructose, as present in many sweet fruits and such. But in high quantities, as in HFCS soda, it's unable to cope and you will end up with waaaaay too much triglycerides. Which, unlike glucose, cannot be regulated by insulin.

Have you looked at the numbers for fruit juice vs soda? Fruit juice has more fructose than most sugars. None of the orange juice on the shelves is even made from squeezed oranges. They add flavor packs (often made from oranges so they can get away with it being 100% juice; and yes this goes for the natural/organic brands as well). When you consume oranges, the fiber helps your body feel full. The fiber also helps red…

Post by cleaver » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 4:48 PM UTC

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Everything you said. I've been treating sugar as personal health enemy #1 for quite a few years now. Note: I am deeply addicted to sugar. It has been absurdly and embarrassingly hard for me to abstain from high sugar foods. I can eat a healthy, high-protein meal, and be full. Yet 30 minutes later, I will feel hungry again. But checking in with my stomach: still full. I can eat a few grams of sugar and feel instantly…

I think it feels irrational because these high protein, low carb diets are really meant up be weight loss diets, not the diet of an active human with healthy fat and muscle levels. In that case, whole grains and vegetables, fruits and the like along with the supplemental meats and nuts are normal. If you're genetically disposed, throw in some whole fat, no sugar added dairy. I think all this confusion arises because…

Post by tim333 » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 4:51 PM UTC

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I wasn't really implying that everyone should start a ketogenic diet. Just stating the success that I've had with it, and also noting several common misconceptions that are still largely heard today.

I didn't say you were implying anything, what I said was I find it astounding how little actual data you seem to have collected, compared to the sweeping conclusions you're drawing. I take issue with your condescending tone, because it doesn't fit whatsoever with your clear ignorance on the topic. I'm particularly sensitive to the topic of food, because people in your situation (who have found success but have no ide…

Post by retbull » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 4:54 PM UTC

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I'd say 1000 calories is a little much, but I think the original point here still stands. I don't have nutrition facts sitting right in front of me, but I do know often times cereal is given in very small quantities, like 130 calories per 3/4 cup. I'd say I used to eat around 3 cups of cereal each morning, so that's 520 calories not counting milk and OJ. The Milk is usually 1 cup, about 110 calories I believe. And 2…

You used to eat 3 cups of cereal every morning? That's a lot of cereal. If I were hungry enough to eat that much cereal, I'd probably want something that felt more substantial (e.g. eggs, breakfast sandwich). I mean, yes, it's totally possible to eat 1000 calories for breakfast. I still don't think it's typical. Why would you even want that OJ after eating 3 whole cups of cereal? Also, how do you not just end up hype…

Post by Smaug123 » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 4:55 PM UTC

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As someone who has shifted to a sugar-free, high-fat lifestyle (keto diet), I can attest to the fact that sugar really is the ultimate evil in terms of health and nutrition. I've lost about 100lbs in 2.5 years... The only thing that I really changed was doing a Keto diet. I've learned a lot about nutrition along the way, and it's amazing how bad nutrition info was when I was growing up.. Common Misconceptions I hear/…

1) Actual pressed juice is fine. The matter gets confused when people don't realize that a glass of actual orange juice is 6+ oranges worth of juice. You wouldn't eat a dozen oranges without thinking about the caloric intake. But you'd drink a few glasses of OJ because it's not as filling. 2) Thermodynamics... That said, a thousand calories of soda is half a day's worth of energy in sugar form. Your body uses sugar f…