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Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

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Post by goldbrick »

smt88 wrote: post #107
gkoberger wrote: post #101

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For PHP, you upload index.php, go to yoursite.com/index.php, and it works. Node isn't like that at all. For example, here's the "Hello World" guide for getting Node started: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-... This is basically the problem `now` is solving... "what if Node was as easy as PHP?"

> For PHP, you upload index.php That's not inherent to PHP. It's just how most hosts are set up. The only major difference is the order in which things are done (and the necessity to have shell access to the host.) The real comparison is this: # PHP # 1. Install a server 2. (Possibly optional) Install a process manager 3. (Possibly optional) Configure the process manager 4. Configure the server 5. Start the server 6.…

So you have 3 configuration steps for PHP and none for Node? You're completely full of it.

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

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Post by williamcotton »

egeozcan wrote: post #110
andrewingram wrote: post #90

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If I were accused of buzzword bingo, i'd try to take it as good-natured criticism that what I said was perhaps a little too filled with lingo to have a solid meaning. It's certainly possible to read this example as a trollish remark, there's also a perfectly valid reading which interprets it as an attempt to provide useful feedback. Since I assume neither of us knows q3k, we're not in a position to know which is true…

It becomes pretty clear that it's not a troll when one puts his/her best-effort to interpret "realtime JavaScript cloud". It's a critic with a very obvious point.

Oh yeah Einstein, what's the point he's trying to make then?

God, this forum is just like 100% assholes these days. You can't even fucking see it either, can you? When was the last time you interacted with normal people in society? Did you just start out with bitter criticism and attacking their vocabulary?

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

#113

Post by snlacks »

cphoover wrote: post #71
scriby wrote: post #65

I used to use a project called now on npm that was abandoned a few years ago ( https://github.com/Flotype/now ). I was curious how this new project was using the same name on npm as the previous now that I had used. Looking at the npm release history, versions <= 0.8.1 are the old project, and the new project picked up at 0.9.0 (should have been 1.0.0 I guess). This is consistent with npm's statements about package n…

> but there's just something weird about reusing package names for totally different projects... Not only is it weird but it is inherently insecure. Even NPM's solution: > "If a package with known dependents is completely unpublished, we’ll replace that package with a placeholder package that prevents immediate adoption of that name. It will still be possible to get the name of an abandoned package by contacting npm…

I hope they break the API and create proper namespacing. I recommend using the model from Composer/Packagist.

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

#114

Post by smt88 »

goldbrick wrote: post #111
smt88 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For PHP, you upload index.php That's not inherent to PHP. It's just how most hosts are set up. The only major difference is the order in which things are done (and the necessity to have shell access to the host.) The real comparison is this: # PHP # 1. Install a server 2. (Possibly optional) Install a process manager 3. (Possibly optional) Configure the process manager 4. Configure the server 5. Start the server 6.…

So you have 3 configuration steps for PHP and none for Node? You're completely full of it.

6 for PHP, 3 for node. There's an objective difference: node has a built-in, production-ready server.

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

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Post by dang »

williamcotton wrote: post #112
egeozcan wrote: post #110

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It becomes pretty clear that it's not a troll when one puts his/her best-effort to interpret "realtime JavaScript cloud". It's a critic with a very obvious point.

Oh yeah Einstein, what's the point he's trying to make then? God, this forum is just like 100% assholes these days. You can't even fucking see it either, can you? When was the last time you interacted with normal people in society? Did you just start out with bitter criticism and attacking their vocabulary?

If it's possible to gently point out that you're repeating the behaviours you deplore, I'd like to do so.

We all get how encountering wrongness and badness on the internet can put one on tilt, and we've all been there, but it's necessary to stop.

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

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Post by williamcotton »

dang wrote: post #116
williamcotton wrote: post #112

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Oh yeah Einstein, what's the point he's trying to make then? God, this forum is just like 100% assholes these days. You can't even fucking see it either, can you? When was the last time you interacted with normal people in society? Did you just start out with bitter criticism and attacking their vocabulary?

If it's possible to gently point out that you're repeating the behaviours you deplore, I'd like to do so. We all get how encountering wrongness and badness on the internet can put one on tilt, and we've all been there, but it's necessary to stop.

Hey dude, follow the thread: I'm defending someone from a bunch of bullies.

I'm not repeating those behaviors at all. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

You seem to think that someone who picks a fight with a bully is somehow guilty of also being a bully.

All you end up doing is passive-aggressively condoning their bullshit behavior in the first place.

I'm guilty of being nothing more than a fed up son of a bitch with a rude attitude. I can live with that.

You're morally bankrupt. Can you live with that?

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

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Post by dang »

williamcotton wrote: post #117
dang wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's possible to gently point out that you're repeating the behaviours you deplore, I'd like to do so. We all get how encountering wrongness and badness on the internet can put one on tilt, and we've all been there, but it's necessary to stop.

Hey dude, follow the thread: I'm defending someone from a bunch of bullies. I'm not repeating those behaviors at all. I'm just calling a spade a spade. You seem to think that someone who picks a fight with a bully is somehow guilty of also being a bully. All you end up doing is passive-aggressively condoning their bullshit behavior in the first place. I'm guilty of being nothing more than a fed up son of a bitch with…

This is way over the line of what we ban people for. I don't want it to seem personal (it isn't), so won't ban you, but if you keep doing this we'll have to.

The rule is "Be civil" and it applies regardless of what you think other people are doing.

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

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Post by goldbrick »

smt88 wrote: post #114
goldbrick wrote: post #111

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So you have 3 configuration steps for PHP and none for Node? You're completely full of it.

6 for PHP, 3 for node. There's an objective difference: node has a built-in, production-ready server.

Silliness. Here's me building a production php server:

1) `apt-get install php5 apache2`

2) upload index.php

3) There is no step 3

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

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Post by williamcotton »

dang wrote: post #118
williamcotton wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey dude, follow the thread: I'm defending someone from a bunch of bullies. I'm not repeating those behaviors at all. I'm just calling a spade a spade. You seem to think that someone who picks a fight with a bully is somehow guilty of also being a bully. All you end up doing is passive-aggressively condoning their bullshit behavior in the first place. I'm guilty of being nothing more than a fed up son of a bitch with…

This is way over the line of what we ban people for. I don't want it to seem personal (it isn't), so won't ban you, but if you keep doing this we'll have to. The rule is "Be civil" and it applies regardless of what you think other people are doing.

I honestly think we should hash this out in person. I live in Bernal Heights in San Francisco. My email address is williamcotton@gmail.com - I'd love to buy you a coffee and a scone and talk about how differing cultures and classes in America have different definitions of "being civil".

I'm like a living Rosetta Stone for rednecks and yuppies. I guarantee you'll spend most of your time laughing and that you'll leave with a giant smile. Hell, I might even bring my guitar along and pick a few songs out for you!

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