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Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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I did not say this feature is opt-out.

Huh? But your comment says: > but this "opt-out, merge-with-Google" thing is exactly the reason why I'm avoiding a lot of Google's services It's opt-in, you call it an "opt-out, merge-with-Google" thing. How is that not calling it opt-out? Your comment or at least its intent is confusing.

You're right, I did actually write that although I did not mean to imply that this particular thing is opt-out. Corrected now, thank you.

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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I did not say this feature is opt-out.

Huh? But your comment says: > but this "opt-out, merge-with-Google" thing is exactly the reason why I'm avoiding a lot of Google's services It's opt-in, you call it an "opt-out, merge-with-Google" thing. How is that not calling it opt-out? Your comment or at least its intent is confusing.

Although, if activating this feature doesn't explicitly warn you that they're merging your account(s) with a Google/Gmail account, then it's worse than an opt-out.

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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post #82

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Meh. I use Inbox, it's my default on all devices. It's pretty smart at filtering out social/ad crap, the search bar is more prominent and works very well, and it's got a nice, simple interface. It's different, but IMO far better.

I use Inbox on mobile and rarely load it in the browser. I spent a few months traveling the world last year and it generally did a great job keeping my travel related emails nicely categorized automatically.

Yup, I truly love this feature. Aside from categorizing, it will even displays all the infos like hotel check-in, train arrival, etc in a timely manner.

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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post #102

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Can we kill SMS already? Seriously, what's wrong with e-mail? Everyone has data plans nowadays, if not data-only plans, and e-mail is cross-platform. Stop making me have to carry my phone around. I already have my SMS forwarding to my e-mail automatically, and now I'm just waiting for SMS to die.

I'm not sure about the US but in Canada it's certainly not true that everyone has data plans (in fact as far as I can tell unless you have a company sponsored phone, data plans are in the minority), and SMS remains a cheap communication method that is more or less guaranteed to work.

I live in Canada, and I don't know anyone who lives here that doesn't have a data plan of some kind, although I'm sure they definitely do exist and there are definitely people without a ton of data.

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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So mixed messages again. Is 'Inbox' the next-gen Gmail interface or a hobby project that will get closed down in a year? Momentum has slowed and I've become so dependent on it's workflow I'd be gutted if this was the case. However - I don't believe Google will maintain two email clients in perpetuity. On past experience - they'll fold the functionality of one into the other - partially and imperfectly leaving users i…

Inbox still sucks for me because * It doesn't show full messages on Android Wear devices. You know, Google's own product. Gmail does. * I can't figure out how to set up a filter in Inbox. The settings page is incomplete. I still have to go back to Gmail to change settings. So I might as well just use Gmail. * The pins in Inbox don't sync up with the stars in Gmail. Pins, stars, tabs, automatic Gmail categories, autom…

> I can't figure out how to set up a filter in Inbox. > The settings page is incomplete.

I'm a huge fan of Inbox, but this still gets me all the time. Inbox was pushed as a kind of advanced application to advanced users, yet I have to go back to Gmail for any kind of advanced settings or configuration. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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Which functionality?

Just an example: As far as I can tell, they are still the only provider that gets conversation view "right."

FastMail. Plus they're Australian and there's no story yet about NSL down under.

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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post #102

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Remember when Google was toasting away to get everyone to use Hangouts for SMS? A few weeks ago, I got a toast in Hangouts asking me to use their new SMS-only Messenger app. You never know.

Can we kill SMS already? Seriously, what's wrong with e-mail? Everyone has data plans nowadays, if not data-only plans, and e-mail is cross-platform. Stop making me have to carry my phone around. I already have my SMS forwarding to my e-mail automatically, and now I'm just waiting for SMS to die.

It's a good idea to have two separate channels. SMS will also work when you're in another country without a data plan. Every phone has SMS. The OTT instant messaging solutions are fragmented (I wish all my contacts had Signal!)

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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post #32

So mixed messages again. Is 'Inbox' the next-gen Gmail interface or a hobby project that will get closed down in a year? Momentum has slowed and I've become so dependent on it's workflow I'd be gutted if this was the case. However - I don't believe Google will maintain two email clients in perpetuity. On past experience - they'll fold the functionality of one into the other - partially and imperfectly leaving users i…

I have the same fears but from the opposite end. I need gmail in my life, and cannot understand why anyone would want Inbox at all. It shows my emails (fewer than in gmail) and combines it with a subpar task manager (in a world of subpar task managers) and wrecks on this "smart" categorization system which is just there for devious purposes and most importantly I cannot trust to do it's job properly. I fear for gmail…

Agreed and, unfortunately I don't trust Google/Gmail anymore after their numerous service closing-downs. As long as the service does not seem to bring more profit through ads, they will close it, for sure.

I use GMail to fetch and filter my main account mails, I don't spread @gmail.com address much, keeping in mind that we will left with closed or transferred service. So I have a plan-B.

At least this is how I see as a long term user: they don't do evil, but removing good is also evilish.

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