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Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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Can M wade through phone support menus and cancel Comcast subscriptions? I look forward to a darkly-humorous future in which we pit poorly-paid third-world citizens against each other in wars of call center attrition. Better, once we equip them with those sound-board UIs that play pre-recorded answers in native English-speaking voices (can't find the link), English can become a transmission protocol that few people d…

> I look forward to a darkly-humorous future in which we pit poorly-paid third-world citizens against each other in wars of call center attrition. This sounds like a 10 page side story in a Neil Stephenson Book. I love it.

It's very nearly part of the strategy of one of the players in Stross's Accelerando (http://www.amazon.com/Accelerando-Singularity-Charles-Stross...).

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They weren't trained to read natural language, and then respond with some programmatic action filtered into natural language: Bot reads "What's the temperature like near me?" Person calls "$get user-local-temperature" API responds "{temperature:{f:77},{c:99}}" Human writes "It's 77 degrees outside!" Training set now contains that relationship between that question, that API call, that response, and that natural langu…

Facebook's M is powered by Wit.ai (who they acquired a while back), which basically does what you're talking about. They translate natural language into machine readable data structures. Honestly, its interesting tech and being able to feed in facebook level data volume should prove very good for them.

Thanks! Was just guessing, glad I wasn't too far off the mark.

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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post #108
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They weren't trained to read natural language, and then respond with some programmatic action filtered into natural language: Bot reads "What's the temperature like near me?" Person calls "$get user-local-temperature" API responds "{temperature:{f:77},{c:99}}" Human writes "It's 77 degrees outside!" Training set now contains that relationship between that question, that API call, that response, and that natural langu…

Facebook's M is powered by Wit.ai (who they acquired a while back), which basically does what you're talking about. They translate natural language into machine readable data structures. Honestly, its interesting tech and being able to feed in facebook level data volume should prove very good for them.

thank you for being one of the few people who actually knows what's going on underneath. Wit.ai's software computes meaning via statistical modeling of semantic roles as they relate to "intent". It loosely resembles the linguistic theory of Frame Semantics (Fillmore), embodied today in the FrameNet project at ICSI in Berkeley.

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Can M wade through phone support menus and cancel Comcast subscriptions? I look forward to a darkly-humorous future in which we pit poorly-paid third-world citizens against each other in wars of call center attrition. Better, once we equip them with those sound-board UIs that play pre-recorded answers in native English-speaking voices (can't find the link), English can become a transmission protocol that few people d…

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Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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> I look forward to a darkly-humorous future in which we pit poorly-paid third-world citizens against each other in wars of call center attrition. This sounds like a 10 page side story in a Neil Stephenson Book. I love it.

It's very nearly part of the strategy of one of the players in Stross's Accelerando ( http://www.amazon.com/Accelerando-Singularity-Charles-Stross... ).

For what it's worth this book (which is excellent) is also published as a free ebook under a Creative Commons license (http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/accelera...).

The author is also a relatively prolific HN poster (https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cstross).

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The reference to Google Maps was a surprise to me... Does't FB typically relies on Bing maps?

Indeed, they do. Facebook has traditionally been inclined towards Microsoft than Google. Probably because they are the lesser rivals in business.

Microsoft was an early investor in Facebook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They weren't trained to read natural language, and then respond with some programmatic action filtered into natural language: Bot reads "What's the temperature like near me?" Person calls "$get user-local-temperature" API responds "{temperature:{f:77},{c:99}}" Human writes "It's 77 degrees outside!" Training set now contains that relationship between that question, that API call, that response, and that natural langu…

The translation of unrestricted human language into a restricted, "logical" language which could be understood mechanically, is another long-standing problem - going back as far as Liebniz - which is unlikely to be solved by a few gigabytes of chat logs.

All true, but it doesn't need to solve that bigger problem to have succeeded at building a reliable M: it just needs a high success rate at converting requests into desired responses, not translating everything into some master language for arbitrary use.

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>The most noteworthy aspect of this reply is that “Google Maps” wasn’t capitalized, suggesting that maybe, just maybe, a human typed it out in a hurry.

Or they're smart enough to add random mistakes. When I started a project for setting up multiple ways to say the same form letter, I thought of adding a random-typo feature to make it look like humans were writing it. I'm sure these guys are at least as cheeky as me...

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