All the innovation at AWS is amazing. If they every stop charging by the Gigabyte for bandwidth and move to a flat model then I would be tempted to switch to them for all my sites.
Amazon Snowball
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Re: Amazon Snowball
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"Currently, Snowball doesn't support exporting data." http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSImportExport/latest/DG/limits....
Wow. Amazon is really embracing the ship fast, break things, roll with the MVP even when it lacks 50% of the features.
Amazon wants to get companies' data into AWS so they're locked in. They don't want that data flowing the other way.
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$1700 is amazingly cheap when you consider that it costs $4300 [0] to transfer that same 50TB out of EC2. [0] https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/ $4300 = 10000 * $0.09 + 40000 * $0.085
... which is also wildly overpriced. According to multiple sources, Internet transit in the US now costs less than 1$ for a 1 Mbps line for large deals, which translates to 1$ for 324GB, which translates to 0.003$ / GB. Amazon charges 15-30 times that. (it appears that traffic can be much more expensive in places other than the US and presumably Europe)
My startup is working on this problem. We are working on an IaaS cloud designed for high-bandwidth users, with much lower pricing than amazon.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found an image here: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/07/amazon-launches-snowball-a-...
Weird - something about the form factor makes me want to violently toss it off a loading dock. Anyone know how much that would translate to in Gs? (The article says it will survive 6 Gs of shock.)
A whole lot. It depends on how fast it is going. See http://measurespeed.com/deceleration-calculator.php for a quick-and-dirty overview. Gravity accelerates at at 9.8m/s², so if it fell for one second before impacting the ground, and took (for instance) 0.05 seconds to deform before coming to a halt, it'd have experienced 8.91 Gs of shock.
Re: Amazon Snowball
#115Isn't this a bit risky? What happens if someone keeps it? 50TB is a lot more than $200.
I'm sure they don't cost Amazon $200 to produce, and assumably they can just bill corporate customers for them if they're not returned. Some amount of loss is probably included in the cost to consumers.
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#116I'm curious about how they're going to approach this from the fraud perspective. This is a $200 charge for a device that has 50TB storage, which would probably cost you around $2000 to buy. There's people out there that will sign a contract under a fake name / address with a phone provider and sell the phones, and the way the providers fight against it usually by running credit checks and verifying address against th…
I can't imagine they care much. Snowball's value doesn't come from renting out these devices, it comes from companies dumping their data into AWS. If they lose a few devices they'll make it back in a couple months of S3 charges.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
... which is also wildly overpriced. According to multiple sources, Internet transit in the US now costs less than 1$ for a 1 Mbps line for large deals, which translates to 1$ for 324GB, which translates to 0.003$ / GB. Amazon charges 15-30 times that. (it appears that traffic can be much more expensive in places other than the US and presumably Europe)
My startup is working on this problem. We are working on an IaaS cloud designed for high-bandwidth users, with much lower pricing than amazon.
Careful. My previous startup was a storage company that competed with Amazon and Google when they were charging 0.10/gb and I calculated it should be around 0.02/gb. A few months after launch, they both realized it too and dropped their prices. Leads dried up overnight.
The high prices seem to persist until one day they don't.
Re: Amazon Snowball
#118Isn't this a bit risky? What happens if someone keeps it? 50TB is a lot more than $200.
I assume they have your credit card and will charge you a larger amount if they don't get it back.
They charge $15/day, so I think the idea is that they'll keep charging you this until it's returned. In fact, if you have a need to do a "slow fill", it might make sense to hang onto this device for months at a time before sending them away.
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#119Well, that's an unfortunate name. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snowball Reminiscent of when Microsoft called an overlay dialog a "floater" and all the South Africans and Brits in the room started laughing. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=floater (the 2nd definition)
I really don't think there's a word that doesn't mean /something/ dirty in some part of the world.
Yeah, but this is a bit like calling it Amazon Cumswapper. There's no other valid technical use of the word.
Re: Amazon Snowball
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
My startup is working on this problem. We are working on an IaaS cloud designed for high-bandwidth users, with much lower pricing than amazon.
Careful. My previous startup was a storage company that competed with Amazon and Google when they were charging 0.10/gb and I calculated it should be around 0.02/gb. A few months after launch, they both realized it too and dropped their prices. Leads dried up overnight. The high prices seem to persist until one day they don't.
Yea, we considered this - but if Amazon and Google compete with us I'll consider it a personal success :)