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Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Post by mikeyouse »

tdylan wrote: post #106
mikeyouse wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Also invested in Tesla" is a bit short... He's on the board at both Tesla and SpaceX (DFJ gave both tens of millions of dollars).. According to his Twitter / Flickr feed, he's probably the world's biggest Musk fan, and probably not just because his investments with Elon made him hundreds of millions in personal wealth.

Well aware of the history, did not find it immediately relevant. Also, Steve doesn't sell shares of most/any of the companies he invests in, he donates them.

Apologies if that came off rude, I get a bit excited with SJ.. I'm almost as much of a Steve Jurvetson fan as many others are Elon Musk fans.. the dude is amazing. He should probably start delivering some of the Tesla event speeches, he's well-spoken but every bit as technical as Elon.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Post by threeseed »

rebootthesystem wrote: post #109

The car looks absolutely beautiful. Sadly, as much as I want to go electric, I have no use for it, at $140K for an SUV I expect a lot more than this. I think the falcon doors solve a non-existing problem while parking. I can't remember the last time this was an issue, with or without kids, with or without cargo or bags on the back seat of either an SUV or a minivan. The same is true of the third row seat. We've had b…

Tesla really needs to earn the title of luxury.

The S-model really does have one of the worst interiors I've seen on a brand new car at any price. They really need to hire someone from Land Rover or Mercedes to understand what luxury actually looks like. They can't use the cheap plastics and leather and expect people to look at it as a luxury car. It's a shame when the exterior is so well designed.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Post by 36erhefg »

goatforce5 wrote: post #91
sergiotapia wrote: post #64

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You don't see how one looks better than the other? "Stay with us at our 5-star hotel!" "Stay with us, there's a 6% chance you will get hurt if there's an accident!"

Yes, at one point he literally used the word 'death'. Don't remind people that your product might one day kill them! Then he had a slide that showed how you would die early by living in a big city. The first ~10 minutes was a real downer. After they spent all of that time on all the things that could kill you, they didn't once show the drivers seating area which seemed like a real omission. (And, yes. I like Elon. I…

People die in crashes, they don't like to breathe smog, they prioritize their safety. All cars "kill", that is an established fact, but we also need to transport ourselves whether we like it or not. Here is a car that is, compared to other cars, safer in those areas by a large margin. Wanna buy it?

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Post by vessenes »

dmcginty wrote: post #52

I admire Tesla as a company, but I can't help but wonder why they still have Elon Musk do the entire presentation himself. Sure, he's their superstar, but he comes off as a very underprepared public speaker. I wish they had him do an introduction, and then have a spokesperson do the bulk of the talking. Instead, he's showing off these new and amazing products with nearly no charisma and enthusiasm.

I really love his style. He has a very persistent values-based set of talking points (environment, safety, not sucking, doing cool shit), and he delivers those in the same way that he would if he had lunch with you and his aunt, and he were nerding out about his values.

Whether it's a chosen style or just how he is, to me, it works and feels genuine in a way that's charming. As he talks, I can imagine him sitting down with his engineers saying "Does this = good for the environment, improve safety, reduce car suckage, and is it cool?" And, I can further imagine him digging in to fix it if the product doesn't match, like with diagrams, and left over space x physics books, and a cool napkin he drew on in the shower with a strut design that would be better..

No PR person could ask for more from a lead presenter, seriously. You can imagine him doing that too, I bet, and that's a key and critical part of the tesla brand.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Post by greglindahl »

threeseed wrote: post #112
rebootthesystem wrote: post #109

The car looks absolutely beautiful. Sadly, as much as I want to go electric, I have no use for it, at $140K for an SUV I expect a lot more than this. I think the falcon doors solve a non-existing problem while parking. I can't remember the last time this was an issue, with or without kids, with or without cargo or bags on the back seat of either an SUV or a minivan. The same is true of the third row seat. We've had b…

Tesla really needs to earn the title of luxury. The S-model really does have one of the worst interiors I've seen on a brand new car at any price. They really need to hire someone from Land Rover or Mercedes to understand what luxury actually looks like. They can't use the cheap plastics and leather and expect people to look at it as a luxury car. It's a shame when the exterior is so well designed.

You've made this complaint repeatedly in HN threads, but it doesn't seem that many reviewers or Tesla customers agree with you.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Post by mikeyouse »

greglindahl wrote: post #115
threeseed wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla really needs to earn the title of luxury. The S-model really does have one of the worst interiors I've seen on a brand new car at any price. They really need to hire someone from Land Rover or Mercedes to understand what luxury actually looks like. They can't use the cheap plastics and leather and expect people to look at it as a luxury car. It's a shame when the exterior is so well designed.

You've made this complaint repeatedly in HN threads, but it doesn't seem that many reviewers or Tesla customers agree with you.

Many reviewers have shared the same sentiment actually.. One such example from Ars where they seem satisfied with the newer interior but repeatedly reference how bad the original Model S interior was;

http://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/05/review-teslas-new-model-...

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Post by shpx »

Niksko wrote: post #42

The Model 3 will be my first car, unless my circumstances necessitate that I have one sooner. The stuff that Tesla is doing is just so bonkers cool. Not only that though, I'm sure it's going to be safe, reliable and fast.

Barring someone making a cheap open source electric car that doesn't report my location to Google or the company making them before then, me too.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Post by pkaye »

fryguy wrote: post #110
sergiotapia wrote: post #18

He's claiming 6% possibility of injury during high speed collision. Imagine any other CEO saying something similar for their product - Elon is the man! Any other suit would say "Five star" over and over.

I had a side impact in my Model S recently. When he showed the slide with the side-impact versus other cars it made me realize that I was lucky to be driving my Model S, since my car looked like the Tesla in the picture, and it likely could have looked like the other picture.

I'm curious what are the insurance rates on the Tesla cars? And how much does it cost to repair the damage? Do you have to go to Tesla for the repairs or are the qualified thrid party car body shops?

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Post by rootlocus »

yekim wrote: post #48

Caught the tail end of the event. Elon definitely comes across as genuine and a real person. That said, a little practice in the stage presence / showmanship department could certainly help things flow smoother and amp up the excitement a bit; something this brand and its cars deserve!

That's an odd expression: "comes across as genuine and a real person". Aren't we all real? Is this a fantasy?

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Post by greglindahl »

mikeyouse wrote: post #116
greglindahl wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've made this complaint repeatedly in HN threads, but it doesn't seem that many reviewers or Tesla customers agree with you.

Many reviewers have shared the same sentiment actually.. One such example from Ars where they seem satisfied with the newer interior but repeatedly reference how bad the original Model S interior was; http://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/05/review-teslas-new-model-...

Huh. Given that the only thing that's changed in the interior is new seat options, one wonders why they changed their minds? I think I'll stick with the opinion of buyers.
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