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https://web.archive.org/web/20150811052336/https://blogs.ora...
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“Stop reverse engineering our code”
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#112I don't understand why everybody is mad about this post, oracle has proprietary software that is bound with a license. In that sense I don't see why people do not moan about having to pay a rent because your tenancy contract that you signed says so... Long story short, its a right of a SOFTWARE mostly company to protect its software, open source is not always the solution and reverse engineering something, consumes w…
Because the post very clearly makes reverse engineering out to be an inherently terrible thing, when the alternative is basically see-no-evil.
And so are you. Not paying is inherently wrong. This is an arbitrary rule more akin to "no looking out the east window".
Trying to sell something to be used but not understood is a fool's errand.
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Ten out of ten for authenticity, minus several million for authentically saying something that's a good idea.
Agreed. The author is clearly wrong on a bunch of fronts; I don't think anyone here would argue otherwise. I just don't understand the hatred directed towards someone who's writing without the usual corporate brain-mouth filter ...
Authentic shit is still shit?
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You can be authentic and speak your mind without being arrogant, insulting, and condescending. In terms of tone, I wouldn't hold this up as a good example - it distracts from any legitimate argument the writer may or may not have.
I think a lot of blog posts like these get triggered by some acute event which pushed the writer over the edge, and it's expected this will shine through in the text. The rest is probably due to living in an employer-typical bubble. If I was an Oracle customer (which I will never, ever be) I would appreciate the honesty. This honesty enables me to make purchase decisions as well, better than megabytes of legalese wou…
You cannot swear you will never be an Oracle customer. You buy a service from a third party, the company get bought by Oracle, you are a customer now. In many instances in B2B systems, it is a lot more pain to migrate away than sending a check...
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#115They took it down. Mirror?
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#117The author must have been undergoing some bad moments so far. The post seems just the outcome of a more complex series of inputs. Most points are not valid from my own personal point of view but still may have been good points if written in a more objective way.
BTW, the post is gone.
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> open source is not always the solution and reverse engineering something, consumes way more energy for the problems it actually solves. You think customers are reverse engineering Oracle products for fun ? They're doing it because there's a problem somewhere, they've filed a bug report and not got a satisfactory result, and so they have to go pay an expensive consultant to try and track down the problem for them wi…
What's wrong with reversing for fun? It's how progress of technology happens.
Your boss is unlikely to pay you for it. The companies using Oracle software are usually not in software (database) development themselves, so there's no business incentive to pay you for having "fun" with expensive software.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can be authentic and speak your mind without being arrogant, insulting, and condescending. In terms of tone, I wouldn't hold this up as a good example - it distracts from any legitimate argument the writer may or may not have.
You can be authentic and speak your mind without being arrogant, insulting, and condescending If you are by nature arrogant, insulting, and condescending, then no, you can't.
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#120Wow. Someone's been hitting the Kool-Aid pretty hard. I've seen this institutional hubris first-hand. The unshakable belief (typically by nontechnical management) that all of the smartest people in the world are employed here , working for me . It always ends badly.
I actually understand how it gets to be this way though. I literally can't touch a Government project without an Oracle license. When I talk to a salesman, the attitude is "I know you can't do this without me", contrary to salesmen for any other product in any other industry. When I talk to a project manager, they don't ask how it will be hosted, or what the platform will be, or anything else obvious. The first quest…
Interesting. In what industries is Oracle so dominant? You say government is one, but where else?
In industry, all I've ever seen is Sybase, SQL Server, and MySQL (ok, technically Oracle). (My background is finance and technology.)