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The Hamburger Menu Doesn't Work

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Re: The Hamburger Menu Doesn't Work

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post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say there was a problem with the design, just that it's inconsistent with their own advice. In that session the Apple UX evangelist absolutely rips hamburger menus to shreds calling them "tedious" and "terrible" at "telling you where you are [and] where else you can go". Quite a surprise to see it show up on apple.com, then.

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Most mobile apps aren't more complex than that.

Re: The Hamburger Menu Doesn't Work

#112
Here's the core question, is this a permanent or temporary problem?

I remember back in the early years of the web (mid to late '90s) and one of the most important factors in designing websites was realizing that users don't scroll. They just didn't, and if your site design relied on that fact then you'd be screwed. But users learned to scroll, and now scrolling is perhaps the most important and most universal method of interacting with the web. In another 10 years will the hamburger menu become so well known and universally relied upon that not doing it will hurt your usability? Or are there fundamental reasons why it will never be good?

Re: The Hamburger Menu Doesn't Work

#113
post #86

It's very interesting that Apple just adopted a hamburger menu for their apple.com redesign (mobile version). They even told everyone not to use hamburger menus at last year's WWDC! [1] [1] WWDC 2014 Session 211 Designing Intuitive User Experiences @ 32:00, available here: https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2014/ Addendum: It's a responsive design so you can see this even on a desktop browser just by shrinking t…

Possibly consistent in that the no-hamburger rule mainly applies to apps, not mobile-optimized web pages.

Re: The Hamburger Menu Doesn't Work

#114
post #86

It's very interesting that Apple just adopted a hamburger menu for their apple.com redesign (mobile version). They even told everyone not to use hamburger menus at last year's WWDC! [1] [1] WWDC 2014 Session 211 Designing Intuitive User Experiences @ 32:00, available here: https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2014/ Addendum: It's a responsive design so you can see this even on a desktop browser just by shrinking t…

To be completely truthful though (and to make it even more cryptic) they decided to go for just two slices of bread — vego style menu.

https://i.imgur.com/aIxIpmU.png

Re: The Hamburger Menu Doesn't Work

#115

Before hamburger menus became popular, weren't people complaining about the exact opposite problem? That is, if you break out the menu items into more prominent interface elements (e.g., tab bar items), then you're at risk of cluttering your visual design with less-common functions. As in all things design, I suppose a balance needs to be found, but I personally don't find anything wrong with a hamburger menu per se.…

> I personally don't find anything wrong with a hamburger menu per se. The trouble, which the article describes with some case studies on engagement before and after hamburger menu implementations, is that people who are not you are confused by it and don't understand it to be a menu. fwiw, I've encountered this quite a bit when helping users switch from Internet Explorer to Firefox or Chrome -- both of which use the…

Part of the engagement reduction has to do with simple confusion on what the heck it is but I think even when it's well-understood it's clunky and distracts from better UX design.

Re: The Hamburger Menu Doesn't Work

#117
post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say there was a problem with the design, just that it's inconsistent with their own advice. In that session the Apple UX evangelist absolutely rips hamburger menus to shreds calling them "tedious" and "terrible" at "telling you where you are [and] where else you can go". Quite a surprise to see it show up on apple.com, then.

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Stop downvoting this. This isn't even a mildly offensive or challenging view, and it provides a good counterpoint.

Re: The Hamburger Menu Doesn't Work

#118

Long before these mobile menus appeared, an icon with a series of lines always meant "drag here" (e.g. in a desktop app, inside a resizable divider or a size box). My first impression of these was therefore to try to grab them and pull, as if to slide the bars that they appear on. Unfortunately, even now, most implementations of "hamburger menus" do the worst possible thing when you try to slide them: nothing at all…

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Re: The Hamburger Menu Doesn't Work

#119

Long before these mobile menus appeared, an icon with a series of lines always meant "drag here" (e.g. in a desktop app, inside a resizable divider or a size box). My first impression of these was therefore to try to grab them and pull, as if to slide the bars that they appear on. Unfortunately, even now, most implementations of "hamburger menus" do the worst possible thing when you try to slide them: nothing at all…

Here's where I always see them:

http://kdcissell.com/2012/09/28/75/

Re: The Hamburger Menu Doesn't Work

#120
post #10

It should be obvious to most designers that critical features of your product should not be buried or hidden. I disagree with this article that hamburger menus should be burned to the ground. I think it's useful for tucking away secondary or tertiary functionality. * Facebook still uses it for accessing your friends list. With smartphones growing in physical size, there is more vertical real-estate to bring the tabna…

Just because people use it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
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