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Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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Re: Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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OK health and nutrition people….. enough is enough. For generations you have been giving us little correlations, tidbits of mechanisms. Vitamin X, High Intensity Sleep, Antioxidants, Kale, CR… Hot off the presses… new experiment reintroducing critically endangered carnivorous gut fauna… There is nothing useful that we can do with this "information." It's just random letters from some book that you are throwing at us…

Remember, risk of death still sits at 100%.

Life is a terminal sexually transmitted disease.

Re: Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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post #91

OK health and nutrition people….. enough is enough. For generations you have been giving us little correlations, tidbits of mechanisms. Vitamin X, High Intensity Sleep, Antioxidants, Kale, CR… Hot off the presses… new experiment reintroducing critically endangered carnivorous gut fauna… There is nothing useful that we can do with this "information." It's just random letters from some book that you are throwing at us…

The state of nutritional science really is pathetic. The ability to prey on the FUD surrounding "a long and healthy life" is second only to promises of get rich quick schemes.

Sometimes I think it would be more practical to educate the public about coming to terms with death rather than all of these food pyramids, cubes and spheres.

Re: Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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Spicy food is healthy only for certain people, whose genes/environment predispose them to certain dis-eases. Ancient medical systems such as Ayurveda (translated from sanskrit: The truth of life) and Traditional Chinese Medicine (sharing knowledge with ayurveda over past 5000 years as they are in same east asian region) say a food can either be medicine or poison depending on who is ingesting it.

Re: Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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post #91

OK health and nutrition people….. enough is enough. For generations you have been giving us little correlations, tidbits of mechanisms. Vitamin X, High Intensity Sleep, Antioxidants, Kale, CR… Hot off the presses… new experiment reintroducing critically endangered carnivorous gut fauna… There is nothing useful that we can do with this "information." It's just random letters from some book that you are throwing at us…

Correlations are better than nothing. You want a simple elegant theory but why do you think one actually exists. The human body is incredibly complex, maybe there are no general rules, only a plethora of interacting processes that are very hard to model.

Also I think that there is a lot of evidence and theory on the harmful effects of dietary saturated fats. Same for being overweight.

Re: Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember, risk of death still sits at 100%.

Strictly speaking, the human condition only has around a 94% fatality rate at the moment. (110 billion humans in the history of the planet. Over 7 billion currently alive.)

When I see the approximations needed to count the 7 billions humans actually living on earth, I smile at the 110 billions number.

The honest answer would be : we have no actual clue on how many people ever lived on earth, and we can only guesstimate how many are living on it right now.

Census only register people that let themselves be registered. It's probably mildly inaccurate in rich countries and terribly inaccurate in poor or chaotic countries.

Re: Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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post #91

OK health and nutrition people….. enough is enough. For generations you have been giving us little correlations, tidbits of mechanisms. Vitamin X, High Intensity Sleep, Antioxidants, Kale, CR… Hot off the presses… new experiment reintroducing critically endangered carnivorous gut fauna… There is nothing useful that we can do with this "information." It's just random letters from some book that you are throwing at us…

Correlations are better than nothing. You want a simple elegant theory but why do you think one actually exists. The human body is incredibly complex, maybe there are no general rules, only a plethora of interacting processes that are very hard to model. Also I think that there is a lot of evidence and theory on the harmful effects of dietary saturated fats. Same for being overweight.

Well, if they are that hard to model, then why a simple diet change can be instantly linked to a longer life? That sounds pretty easy to model.

Of course, one is probably going to find out that there's other confounding variables involved and another paper will come up in a year or so making the exact opposite claims.

Re: Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The spicier the food, the more water you drink (maybe). There's also the link to certain spices (like chili peppers) that are highly anti-inflammatory. Personally, the more spicy food I eat, the more I have dessert.

"The spicier the food, the more water you drink (maybe)." Negative. Water actually amplifies the sensation. The sugar in the desert counters the sensation, as does milk. If I go awhile without eating "11" hot, when I return I have to follow it with milk or sugar(or both=Thai Tea or Cafe Sua Da). Otherwise, the subsequent burning sensation can be quite unpleasant. I always go to "11" when I feel a cold or flu coming o…

> Negative. Water actually amplifies the sensation.

Yes. However, if it is very cold water, then it lowers the mouth temperature, which could take it below the 'heat' threshold.

You'd have to keep drinking it though, because after a moment, the temperature returns to normal and the burning sensation returns.

Re: Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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post #91

OK health and nutrition people….. enough is enough. For generations you have been giving us little correlations, tidbits of mechanisms. Vitamin X, High Intensity Sleep, Antioxidants, Kale, CR… Hot off the presses… new experiment reintroducing critically endangered carnivorous gut fauna… There is nothing useful that we can do with this "information." It's just random letters from some book that you are throwing at us…

The state of nutritional science really is pathetic. The ability to prey on the FUD surrounding "a long and healthy life" is second only to promises of get rich quick schemes. Sometimes I think it would be more practical to educate the public about coming to terms with death rather than all of these food pyramids, cubes and spheres.

I think the problem is not the field, but your expectations from nutritional science research. Your comment is premised on the assumption that what you see in newspapers is representative of nutritional science. Like most research, the objective is seldom to immediately impact human health (exceptions: CDC, pharma companies, infectious disease researchers and others do that kind of stuff). Influencing human health outcomes is the hopeful eventual goal of most health-related research, but individual studies and projects are not designed to be end-all conclusions. I'd be suspicious of studies that claim this. But, read the quote by a co-author on that article. Each research project is designed to fit as a piece of puzzle into the larger picture. If you read the article, the Harvard public health professor puts it best:

> “We need more evidence, especially from clinical trials, to further verify these findings,” said a co-author, Dr. Lu Qi, an associate professor of nutrition at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, “and we are looking forward to seeing data from other populations.”

Re: Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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post #91

OK health and nutrition people….. enough is enough. For generations you have been giving us little correlations, tidbits of mechanisms. Vitamin X, High Intensity Sleep, Antioxidants, Kale, CR… Hot off the presses… new experiment reintroducing critically endangered carnivorous gut fauna… There is nothing useful that we can do with this "information." It's just random letters from some book that you are throwing at us…

Correlations are better than nothing. You want a simple elegant theory but why do you think one actually exists. The human body is incredibly complex, maybe there are no general rules, only a plethora of interacting processes that are very hard to model. Also I think that there is a lot of evidence and theory on the harmful effects of dietary saturated fats. Same for being overweight.

Hey! I'm an idea guy!

My idea is a simple elegant theory. Let the lab rats sort out the details.

Re: Eating Spicy Food Linked to a Longer Life

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post #92

My n=1 case for spicy foods. I have a secondary systemic inflammation to due a genetic condition that make my mitochondria to malfunction. Usual symptoms include a profound fatigue after working-out and muscle weakness, specially in the extra-ocular muscles. I have been always centered around supplements to improve the energy output (ATP) of my mitochondria (Coq10, ALCAR, idebedone ... you name it). While this made a…

I'll add, if anyone would like to try something similar, but has trouble tolerating spicy foods, there's more than one way get your pepper fix. One is to make your own cayenne pepper (or equivalent) gel caps (capsule supplies can be ordered online and are +/- cheap, or do a cayenne pepper shot that doesn't burn your mouth. Just load up a spoonful, flip it to the back of your throat, then chug some water. Just be sure to not inhale between those steps :)
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