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Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by jewbacca »

fleitz wrote: post #44
teraflop wrote: post #30

This article dramatically understates the magnitude of the shitstorm that is currently unfolding. Check out http://www.reddit.com/r/all/ if you feel like seeing all the ugliness. (And if anyone has any doubts that this is ultimately about harassment, count how many of the posts on the front page (and their comments) are made up of personal attacks and/or obscenities targeted at CEO Ellen Pao.) I don't fault the Reddi…

You've got to give Christopher Poole credit, he was never dumb enough to try to police 4chan. This is as laughable as trying to get rid of trolling on IRC.

> he was never dumb enough to try to police 4chan

This is not true, there was a massive controversy and subsequent schism less than a year ago.

A "folk history" (if you're feeling generous enough to call it that) of the episode here: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/M00t%27s_GamerGate_Sellout

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by Goronmon »

teraflop wrote: post #30

This article dramatically understates the magnitude of the shitstorm that is currently unfolding. Check out http://www.reddit.com/r/all/ if you feel like seeing all the ugliness. (And if anyone has any doubts that this is ultimately about harassment, count how many of the posts on the front page (and their comments) are made up of personal attacks and/or obscenities targeted at CEO Ellen Pao.) I don't fault the Reddi…

(And if anyone has any doubts that this is ultimately about harassment, count how many of the posts on the front page (and their comments) are made up of personal attacks and/or obscenities targeted at CEO Ellen Pao.)

I think people are just upvoting anything that is critical of reddit at the moment. I doubt most people actually care who, if anyone, is being targeted.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by batiudrami »

zxcvcxz wrote: post #84
spodek wrote: post #76

HN users consistently imply this place has better comments than Reddit. "Reddit is a cesspool." "Can we please not bring this to HN as well." etc. I've never had a problem avoiding content I didn't like there. Meanwhile I saw great discussions at various times. Here, on the other hand, I've nearly stopped reading. Besides the unjustified elitism, constantly I'd post on a thread here only to see it disappear with no e…

HN isn't very good, but it's a little better than the current state of reddit, which is like a middle school without adults. At least people try to be intellectual on HN.

It really depends where you look and what subreddits you subscribe to. Opening reddit this morning looked exactly the same to me as any other day, except for one thread because I'm subscribed to /r/subredditdrama.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by powrtoch »

teraflop wrote: post #30

This article dramatically understates the magnitude of the shitstorm that is currently unfolding. Check out http://www.reddit.com/r/all/ if you feel like seeing all the ugliness. (And if anyone has any doubts that this is ultimately about harassment, count how many of the posts on the front page (and their comments) are made up of personal attacks and/or obscenities targeted at CEO Ellen Pao.) I don't fault the Reddi…

The front page is pretty worrying.

The situation seems almost identical to when Reddit axed r/jailbait: one of their more embarrassing communities started to get too much attention, its users were increasingly behaving in a way that was damaging Reddit, and Reddit decided to kill it (ostensibly for the greater good of the site).

But even though that pissed plenty of people off... I don't recall the front page being totally dominated by calls for anyone's head on a silver platter. Reddit's userbase seems to feel especially threatened by Ellen Pao, and it's hard for me to believe that the difference is anything rational.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by mayneack »

mintplant wrote: post #7
a89anqm2ovn wrote: post #3

> We’re banning behavior, not ideas. SRS has always had atrocious behavior that's been forgiven because of their ideas....

Can we please not bring this to HN as well?

seems like this thread is inevitable on HN. I see no harm in discussing it within this thread. It hasn't been "brought to HN" until it's getting in the way of other things.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by Goronmon »

rcfox wrote: post #70
adamnemecek wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> On one hand I'm against censorship, I feel like censorship isn't the right word for this but I can't think of a better one.

It's moderation. "Censorship" implies suppressing free speech, which this is not. It's simply removing undesirable content from a privately-owned website.

Isn't it both? I don't see how moderation (in the form of removing/editing content) isn't censorship.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by batiudrami »

ChikkaChiChi wrote: post #55

Notch has the right idea. Why not just block the subreddits you find offensive? https://twitter.com/notch/status/608706518972788736 Reddit just put the world on notice that they are willing to become user babysitters, and historically this has never ended well for the company involved.

Because it was spilling out into other subreddits. I had FPH on a filter, but you could go to any other post with a photo of someone who was overweight and there'd be an upvoted comment calling them a "hambeast".

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Post by Goronmon »

batiudrami wrote: post #103
zxcvcxz wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN isn't very good, but it's a little better than the current state of reddit, which is like a middle school without adults. At least people try to be intellectual on HN.

It really depends where you look and what subreddits you subscribe to. Opening reddit this morning looked exactly the same to me as any other day, except for one thread because I'm subscribed to /r/subredditdrama.

Yeah, as bad as /r/all has been (though, I have to admit, I've been amused by the drama), my frontpage looks the same as any other day.
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