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When will we stop using Facebook?

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Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by tim333 »

yuvadam wrote: post #5

Yes, we've passed Peak Facebook, but that's just because it has been distilled and pornographized to the point of desensitization. Pure capitalism at its finest. What will set the trend for the future is our understanding of how digital slavery works. We can be entering one of the darkest eras of modern history, or one of the most liberating. The choice is up to us, human beings, whether we sell ourselves to whoever…

>we've passed Peak Facebook

Like with peak oil you've got to distinguish the US peak (which happened about 1970 though there may be second higher one coming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubbert_peak_theory#/media/File...) and a global peak - not yet for oil. Facebook's probably peaked in the USA but has a lot of growth ahead globally.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by wyclif »

Piece needs an editorial once-over badly. Some of the pull quotes don't even match up to the same body text. Is it too much to ask for people to run spellcheck as a bare minimum of due diligence?

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by jsprogrammer »

IanCal wrote: post #48
hessenwolf wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think linkedin's groups solve it a bit better. The problem with circles is that the people in a given circle don't necessarily have me in a circle. I can really just group the input feed, not the output feed. It's more consumption than distribution focused.

> The problem with circles is that the people in a given circle don't necessarily have me in a circle. I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you mean here. If they don't want to 'follow' you, why would you expect to send them things? > I can really just group the input feed, not the output feed You can choose which circle(s) you wish to share with, is that not controlling your output feed? People can filter their…

Incorporated entities expect to be able to send things to people who don't 'follow' them.

Don't you get recruiter spam through Linked In? What about the more general advertising and marketing industry? They survive off such a model.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by robinson7d »

testrun wrote: post #57
Kurtz79 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is not a startup, it's a publicly traded company, meaning that its value is given by the numer of shares in the market times the stock price (which by this date is more than 226bn). If we are talking about liquid cash, FB is sitting on 12 bn, which is not so far than AAPL 33 bn.

Apple cash reserve is $194 Billion ( http://americasmarkets.usatoday.com/2015/04/27/194b-apple-ca... ).

That article actually confirms the 33B "liquid cash" quoted in your parent. The other ~160B is "long-term investments".

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by summerdown2 »

tim333 wrote: post #96
pjc50 wrote: post #23

I really should flesh out my "why you can't have a good distributed social network" post some time. What does FB provide that you don't get with a combination of email/USENET/blogs/chat? Branding, janitors, and indexing. Branding is useful because these things are so scale-driven that you want to be on the one that everyone else is using. It's easier for the uninvolved to figure this out if it's the one with huge adv…

> Why should you post life updates? Because it's the "done thing". No - it's because you've done something you think your friends would be interested in and it's a lot easier to take a photo and click 'post to Facebook' than to write to 30 people. That's really the fundamental function of Facebook and any successor will probably succeed by doing it better in some way. eg. Snapchat enabling you to send naughty pics wi…

My problem with Facebook is that whenever I do something I think my friends would be interested in, I actually do take a photo and upload it to Facebook.

Then, Facebook filters all my friends' feed so only 50% of them see it.

All I want from Facebook is a way to reliably see all the posts from all the people I want to follow, and have it keep doing that. I have found settings in the past that let it happen, but it seems to reset to filtered every time I take my eyes off it.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by jsprogrammer »

higherpurpose wrote: post #8
ajkjk wrote: post #4

I hate Facebook, but I don't plan to stop using it anytime soon. Well - I don't hate everything about it, but I hate everything they're trying to do, so I agree with this article. But "hate"ing a company is odd, so I guess I really mean "I want to have nothing to do with". I'll switch when there's a dominating replacement. All I want, for the rest of my life, is: - a way to see updates from friends and acquaintances…

In other words - the Internet. You don't need to do all those things in a single place, or even in multiple places, but all owned by the same company. The fact that people want to use Instagram, Vine, Snapchat and Whatsapp is proof many people don't want a single service for everything. It's just unfortunate that Facebook happens to have acquired many of those.

> proof

Is there a service that does everything? I don't see how you connect your proof to what people actually want. It seems more likely that people will just use what is immediately available to them.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by reitoei »

dade_ wrote: post #42

So the bad news is that it is difficult to stop using Facebook. They let me export my data, but not birthdays of my friends list. I had to break the list down into family, friends, actual friends, then check each of their pages to update my address book. I had to disconnect the few apps that were attached which was easy for me as I avoided facebooks apps like the plague, but imagine losing all of your farm animals or…

> it is difficult to stop using Facebook

It's really not. All the saving of contacts, birthdays etc. that you talk about here... If you give a crap about any of these people, you will already have that information in another medium. The Facebook logins? Only one I had to change manually was Spotify, everything else I was able to switch to Google.

It's seriously easy. Just stop using it.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by macintux »

snarfy wrote: post #67

The only thing Facebook was ever good for was finding those old friends. Now that you found them, now what? Do you need Facebook? The easy way out is to message all of them saying you are quitting Facebook and ask them for their email address. That's all you ever needed, but there was no index/search engine for it until Facebook. And once you have that part of the index you care about, you'll never need it again.

I stay away from Facebook, but it does have at least one significant advantage over email: pull vs push.

If I (as a hypothetical FB user) hit a deer driving to work tomorrow, would I email all my old friends about it? Absolutely not. Would I post something to FB? Sure!

I have email addresses for old friends, and they have mine, and I have no idea what's going on their lives.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by czzarr »

jackvalentine wrote: post #99
Thriptic wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have trouble leaving Facebook because for better or worse it is how many of my friends and acquaintances communicate. I ended up finding a nice compromise: I installed an extension which hides all the content on news feed but still allows FB chat. When I couple this extension with ublock, the only thing I see when I go to Facebook is the chat interface, which is perfect for how I use the service.

Facebook have done that themselves! No extensions required! www.messenger.com is literally just FB chat, nothing else.

wow thanks, I feel stupid for not knowing about that.
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