Fish shell

Post by oldmanjay » Tue, May 19, 2015, 12:29 AM UTC

nilved wrote: post #65

eridius wrote: post #54

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Why would a software system that relies on bash not explicitly use bash for its scripts?

Bad developers. For example, I used Arch Linux for a number of years, where `/bin/sh` is a symlink to bash. Switching that to point to `dash` broke a number of programs both in the official repositories and the AUR. A lot of shell scripters can't spot a bashism, and just as many don't know that other shell syntax even exists.

Post by username223 » Tue, May 19, 2015, 12:33 AM UTC

bishc wrote: post #91

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> Only problem is it's not POSIX so there is some weirdness in command substitution, logical operators and stuff. So you still script in sh. Yeah some wild-card matching stuff doesn't work, also for example expanding `pkg-config --cflags gobject-2.0` as one would in bash requires calling eval gcc. On the other-hand it's not like Bash doesn't have weird gotcha's -- for example does anyone remember which of these is a…

I'm never sure when these plugs become too much, but... I created a language called bish that allows you to write your shell scripts in a sane and comfortable syntax. No more remembering which one of those conditionals to use! Bish compiles to bash, so you also get to keep all of the portability that comes with bash scripts. I haven't had much time to work on it recently, and it's still missing some features, but it'…

Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 19, 2015, 12:41 AM UTC

ridiculous_fish wrote: post #100

Hey, I'm the lead dev of the fish shell. There's some great discussion in this thread! For those who are interested, the fish shell is about to release version 2.2, a very significant release that wraps up eighteen months of development. You can try the beta now: http://fishshell.com/beta/ A sampling of new features: - vi mode (yay!) - Abbreviations, fish's take on aliases. They expand as you type them. - A new "inli…

Post by mixmastamyk » Tue, May 19, 2015, 12:45 AM UTC

kolev wrote: post #92

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Using fish doesn't mean you have to stop using existing bash scripts.

I understand that, but my point was that Fish is yet another big missed opportunity.

Post by nilved » Tue, May 19, 2015, 12:59 AM UTC

oldmanjay wrote: post #101

nilved wrote: post #65

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Bad developers. For example, I used Arch Linux for a number of years, where `/bin/sh` is a symlink to bash. Switching that to point to `dash` broke a number of programs both in the official repositories and the AUR. A lot of shell scripters can't spot a bashism, and just as many don't know that other shell syntax even exists.

More likely, and somewhat less judgmentally, developers that are ignorant of the distinction. Unless you want to define "bad" as "ignorant of some facet of computing" in which case we all fit.