Note: Windows 10 on Pi 2 will be an IoT platform, not a desktop OS. You'll develop your app in Visual Studio on a Windows PC and deploy it to the Pi. Raspbian will continue to be the main supported OS. - Ben from Raspberry Pi
Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
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Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Conceptually, it's just like Windows 8 can run both on a desktop as well as a Lumia phone. I'm not sure whether they actually share parts of the codebase (like the linux kernel does), or it's just some common UI elements like tiles + shared brand name on top of wildly different kernels.
In fact they use the NT-Kernel for Windows Phone as well. [1] http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-windows-phone-8-fina...
"...the Windows Phone OS will include the same file system (NTFS), same networking stack, same security elements, graphics engine (DirectX), device driver framework and hardware abstraction layer (HAL) as big Windows."
I hadn't realized they share so much. If this statement holds true for the upcoming Windows 10, then it's probably the very first time DirectX is running on any SBC. I wonder if Broadcom have made some changes to VideoCore GPU to support DirectX.
Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#103But this could work too!
Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#104But this could work too!
Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Now, while legally, you are perfectly right, Windows is as close as ever, it's not actually that hard to look under the hood. I work as a Windows device driver developer, and sometimes I need to reverse engineer some of the internals, and the source code from WRK is easily available on the internet : ( http://gate.upm.ro/os/LABs/Windows_OS_Internals_Curriculum_R... ). These are sources from 2005-2006 timeframe, but t…
> http://gate.upm.ro/os/LABs/Windows_OS_Internals_Curriculum_R... Oh my. Aaaaand, mirrored. There's also this, which seems about the same level of should-this-actually-be-publicly-available: https://github.com/njdragonfly/WinNT4
Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#106Note: Windows 10 on Pi 2 will be an IoT platform, not a desktop OS. You'll develop your app in Visual Studio on a Windows PC and deploy it to the Pi. Raspbian will continue to be the main supported OS. - Ben from Raspberry Pi
You've rendered much of the debate here totally moot with just a couple sentences. *High five. :)
Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#107I personally want a trimmed down version of .NET (perhaps the new Core CLR which is just 10 MB) so I can run F#. Mono is too heavy and have millions other dependencies I dont want to grab. Running a modern & practical functional language on RB Pi will be extremely joyful for me.
sudo apt-get install fsharp
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Need to get 22.2 MB of archives.
After this operation, 66.0 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Personally, I wouldn't call that heavy.Remember that the 10MB figure for CoreCLR you give is just for the runtime alone, it doesn't include any class libraries. The Mono runtime is in the same ballpark.
Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#108I am usually not the one to blow the free software horn (being a staunch believer of non-copyleft licenses such as the Apache License) and the geek in me likes this announcement. I also don't hold a grudge against Windows, I think it is a fine system for most people. However, Windows seems very much contrary to the goal of the Raspberry Pi: providing a device for children to tinker with and educate themselves. Althou…
Most importantly Raspberry Pi is a friendly device which managed to really manage the market(press/public) perception just right despite the delays and early failures.
Same goes for Windows 10, definitely not open but friendly and the price is right in this case.
Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#109Another issue little discussed is the intense PR campaign that it's only useful for education despite it being a pretty good generic appliance. I've never used one for education and have zero contact with that small subculture. Most pi users are using it as a low power small solid state replacement for "pull that old used desktop and slap linux on it" I wonder how the PR campaign that its an educational device will be enforced at the OS level, perhaps a watchdog timer will reboot it every hour or it'll be DRMed to heck and back requiring signatures for all executable software or who knows what could be implemented to ruin it for hobbyists without significantly impacting the edu market.
Re: Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2
#110I am usually not the one to blow the free software horn (being a staunch believer of non-copyleft licenses such as the Apache License) and the geek in me likes this announcement. I also don't hold a grudge against Windows, I think it is a fine system for most people. However, Windows seems very much contrary to the goal of the Raspberry Pi: providing a device for children to tinker with and educate themselves. Althou…