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Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by ryanjshaw »

deanclatworthy wrote: post #46

My first instinct (being the geek that I am) upon seeing this was it looks great. And having lived in England the majority of my life, with cold houses and heating turned off at night - heated underblankets are a necessity. But as I read through the feature list, I couldn't help feel uncomfortable. Am I the only one that finds this deluge of technology into every aspect of our lives abhorrent? Every single day billio…

I liked the idea initially, and for people struggling with hypo/hypersomnia or bad sleep in general it's probably going to be very useful to objectively measure the effect of lifestyle/dietary/medication changes.

Then I read that the bed will be listening to my wife and me. That's really creepy. Together with all these 'AIs are going to kill us all articles' it reminds me of the Amazon Echo thread [1]... it carefully studies your sleeping habits, switches off the lights, locks your doors, and waits patiently for you to fall asleep...: http://youtubedoubler.com/eqOJ

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8569219

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by maghis »

ricardobeat wrote: post #94

The hardware (including a bed warmer that is 100% guaranteed to not set your house on fire), controller software, sleep-tracking software + mobile apps, all for US$100k? Either we haven't learned anything from previous crowdfunding nightmares, or they have another source of funding.

Yes, we have another source of funding, from a group of awesome people that supported us believing in the project since the beginning. (you can find some of them in the comments)

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by brian_cloutier »

maghis wrote: post #77
brian_cloutier wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a really cool idea and great job on getting this far; I think I might order one. Does that mean both the device and your cloud have apis, or does it mean that an app which communicates only with the device can do the same things as your app which talks to both?

Any 3rd party app can do everything our app can do, the APIs we use internally are the ones that will be publicly available.

That sounds incredible, I'm excited!

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by ruben94 »

Find it hard to believe a mattress can track sleep quality accurately, and in order to aggregate information about your day gathered from other sources and do something useful with it they would need a very complex ML backend, which I doub a mattress company has.

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by saidajigumi »

wernerb wrote: post #33

This looks really cool. I wonder though if my bed would not then be dependent on your servers at some point as I consider such a product as a long-term investment. For example, can it live without the server-side aggregation? Would you consider opensourcing parts of the server to enable people to use their own servers in the long run? Would you consider adding a respectable API that follows the ideas of for example,…

> product as a long-term investment

Having an internet outage (or DDOS attack) render your "smart" home appliance unusable should be considered unacceptable product design. That said, heated mattress pads on the market now have a finite lifespan. The heating elements gradually lose their ability to heat, necessitating replacement after a perhaps 3-5 years, give or take. Unless they've engineered a much longer-lasting heating system, this significantly limits the window of risk.

If they have engineered a pad with significantly longer-lasting heating elements they should trump that fact LOUDLY, as it'll be a big plus to existing fans of heated mattress pads.

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by mb_72 »

mb_72 wrote: post #65

What research has been done to show this actually has a beneficial effect on one's sleep? I ask because there are many 'lifestyle' type of products that get advertised, and sound good, but only seem to have anecdotal evidence to support their claimed benefits.

More: after read-reading the project page I'm going to assume the answer is 'no' to supporting evidence, otherwise this would have been included with all the other (detailed) information already provided. So, for me at least, this falls into the 'solution looking for a problem' category; it'a an exercise in technology application that - yes - is cool, but doesn't actually solve (supported by evidence) a problem.

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by maghis »

woodchuck64 wrote: post #106

Tiny thing: with the first picture I see on the web page showing a bed cover, I immediately assumed incorrectly that luna was a bed cover, not a mattress cover hidden out of sight.

One of our first design goals was to build a product that would disappear in the bedroom and that did not require any active input from the user (you never HAVE to pull out your phone to use it). The mattress cover form factor served our goal so well that we realized it was hard to show a product designed to be invisible. That definitely poses some challenges, we have to show it on top of a mattress and make sure people understand that we are not selling a mattress for example...

Re: Luna – Hack your sleep

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Post by geoelectric »

maghis wrote: post #24
geoelectric wrote: post #9

Anyone know how the alarm works? I've been using a vibrate-only alarm on Sleep Cycle with the phone under my bottom sheet to avoid waking my partner. Can this be configured in the same way somehow?

We currently don't have a built-in motor for the vibration, currently we are using the phone as an alarm, informed by the data coming from Luna. We have an experimental feature that consists in gradually increasing the volume of the alarm sound till we notice you are waking up: the goal is to keep it just loud enough to wake you up but not your partner. This is obviously assuming your phone sits on a nightstand on yo…

That can still work, as long as I can set the phone to vibrate-only. Otherwise, I wonder if anyone makes an IFTTT-driven device to do it.
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