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Re: Facebook Unveils Facebook at Work

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Post by spinchange »

ThomPete wrote: post #69

"Lars Rasmussen, the engineering director at Facebook who is heading up the project, had in his past once headed up one of the failed efforts at an enterprise social network, Google Wave." Lars Rasmussen was also the guy behind google maps. Seems a little unfair to set it up like the above.

It definitely should be noted, simply because Maps is such a huge success and professional achievement. On the other hand, this is relevant framing in the sense that he's probably learned a lot from Wave and will apply those lessons here.

Re: Facebook Unveils Facebook at Work

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Post by rondon2 »

xorcist wrote: post #97
rondon2 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is just so expensive to provide 99% uptime on your own servers. Who is going to go into the office at 2:00AM when an executive can't access his power point presentation?

That comparison doesn't make sense. Google's SREs doesn't get out of bed just because you can't access your powerpoint either.

That is because Google has technicians 24/7/365 at their data centers.

Re: Facebook Unveils Facebook at Work

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Post by snowwrestler »

Mc_Big_G wrote: post #56
berberous wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, what's your threat model that you are worried about? I would imagine all of these companies have much better security and reliability than most internal IT departments. And I don't see them snooping for their own purposes. The NSA can get what they want anyways. The one big issue is subpoena's / third party doctrine issues, but I imagine for many companies that's a decent tradeoff for the reduced IT overhead /…

>>And I don't see them snooping for their own purposes. This is snarky, but have you looked? If you were suddenly trying to be acquired by FB, would you want all your secrets available to them? Sure, that particular problem affects a very small percentage of companies, but I'm not evil enough to imagine all the ways FB could and would use your data.

These don't seem like particularly new concerns to me, though. U.S. businesses have used 3rd parties to carry or store sensitive information for decades.

Do you worry that Verizon is listening to or recording all your phone calls? Or FedEx is opening and reading the documents you're overnighting around? Or that document storage companies are opening every box they store, in case there's something useful in there? How do you know Quickbooks isn't mining your bookkeeping data so they can sell leads to tax or collections firms?

And what about IAAS and PAAS companies like AWS, Google Compute, or even hosting companies like Rackspace or Softlayer, who typically have root access to every machine they manage? How many companies--even big companies--own all their servers and the buildings they are in?

Ultimately, our economy is based on specialization and carefully constructed relationships of mutual obligation. Contracts have to mean something or there's not much business going to get done.

Re: Facebook Unveils Facebook at Work

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Post by suttree »

scott_karana wrote: post #94

I know it's not really a competitor, but I would love to see Facebook (or anyone else) eat LinkedIn's lunch. So sick of their awful practices.

Working on it - www.somewhere.com - but they have a huge lead. As a networking tool that nobody likes but everybody uses, that's quite some lunch :~/

Re: Facebook Unveils Facebook at Work

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Post by zippergz »

smackfu wrote: post #3

Has anyone seen a work social network that wasn't a joke? We have one, and the only use is that your director/VP asks their org to follow them, and then posts various strategic stuff they want you to see. There's zero peer-to-peer usage at all.

At least in the early days of Google+, the internal instance was really great. I don't work there anymore so I don't know if it is any more. But people would post about stuff they're working on, questions they have, frustrations, etc. I thought it was super useful. Much more useful than external Google+ has ever been...

Re: Facebook Unveils Facebook at Work

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Post by [deleted] »

scubaguy wrote: post #81
howeyc wrote: post #27

Awesome, pretty soon companies wont have to store any of "their" data on their own servers. Facebook - Company info/announcements/chat OneDrive/Google/Dropbox - Company documents VOIP Services - Company communications All stored in clear-text obviously (or at least not encrypted by company using the service before transfer to said services, same thing really). I myself think this trend is hilariously ridiculous, but…

Don't forget Hipchat/Slack - IM How about putting emphasis on "have to" instead? For most people, the advantage of these services is that you get very good services for little cost. It's simply cheaper to use 3rd party services. That why they've become so popular.

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Re: Facebook Unveils Facebook at Work

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Post by epmatsw »

ThomPete wrote: post #69

"Lars Rasmussen, the engineering director at Facebook who is heading up the project, had in his past once headed up one of the failed efforts at an enterprise social network, Google Wave." Lars Rasmussen was also the guy behind google maps. Seems a little unfair to set it up like the above.

Was Wave even a social network? I vaguely remember it being more like a real-time Google Docs before Google Docs went realtime.

Re: Facebook Unveils Facebook at Work

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Post by gnopgnip »

erythrocyte wrote: post #78
arthurcolle wrote: post #47

This is going to destroy Slack

No, this is going to destroy Facebook. Picture it this way: 1. You show up to work, and Facebook is now mandatory. It's attached to your real name, and Facebook helpfully connects your real profile to all your co-workers. 2. You now have to delete ALL of your non-work contacts, for fear of gossip contamination, and NEVER use Facebook outside of work again. 3. Everyone who has Facebook at work, now needs something to…

This is a separate account from your existing Facebook account.
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