Did the same thing a few years ago with a Tassimo.
Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass
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#102One way to look at the razors and blades business model that Keurig is doing here is like so: 1. The consumer purphases product A (here the coffee maker) on the normal consumer market we're all familiar with. 2. Doing so forces the consumer to purchase product B (here K-cups) on a different market. Keurig's goal is to control the second market. By making having all the market power, they can jack up prices to the con…
Does Keurig actually sell their coffee makers at a loss? I've always thought they were overpriced to begin with.
Probably if it factors in how much R&D went into the DRM, the production price per unit increases. Nothing else about it is terribly complicated.
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#103I love how such a simple solution can bypass a DRM scheme that Keurig probably invested considerable time and effort into producing. In some cases DRM is warranted, but for a coffee machine, it is just plain ridiculous and anticompetitive to have DRM to block out competitor coffee pods when history has proven that printer manufacturers like HP have been trying and consistently failing to do this for years now.
So simple to bypass, I expect they didn't spend much effort or money at all. They aren't trying to make an unbreakable system, they're trying to make a deterrent. If they had made the detection method too complicated, it could lead to false rejections and that would ultimately be more costly. They just needed a method that they can prove in court that a third party is using to defeat their DRM. This is the equivalent to ROT-13 encryption.
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#104For a single cup of coffee, I'm partial to the AeroPress. It takes a bit more work, but the strange looks I get from my coworkers is worth it.
The Aeropress makes the best coffee I've ever had at home. I've tried moka pots, regular coffee brewers and French presses. The Aeropress is better than all of those hands down.
I like Aeropress better than everything you listed, but I think a pourover with my glass V60 has to beat even Aeropress. I still use my Aeropress once or twice a week, but nothing beats a solid pourover, especially pourover iced coffee.
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#105Anyone who uses a Keurig needs to: 1) punch themselves in the nuts, 2) go plant a tree. If you drink it out of a styrofoam cup, plant 2 trees.
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#106I didn't even realise there was something like this on the market, I'll notch it up as another reason I love my Aeropress.
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#107I have owned two Nespresso machines. They were both great for about 8 months. Then no matter how much I 'cleansed' them they made terrible tasting coffee. You can never get the insides completely clean. I suspect the Keurig has a similar problem. I'm now back to my ceramic filter cone (one-time $20 cost) and the coffee has never tasted better.
Ammonia is the way to clean a coffee maker.
Nespresso says ammonia can destroy the coffeemaker. I believe the substance in their cleaning pouches are pure ascorbic acid. I've tried everything. It still makes crappy coffee afterwards.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd be curious to read about that, myself.
Pretty simple, actually!! This model (B31) contains: - 12VDC air pump to push water from tank into coffee pod - 10K thermistor, stuck in the tank - 1400 Watt heating element I wired all three to the Arduino through a transistor for the pump, a resistor divider to use analogRead() and calculate temperature, and a mechanical relay. The Arduino uses 4 buttons: heating element toggle, temperature up/down, and pump engage…
What would happen if there is no water in the reservoir and you turned on the heating element?
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does Keurig actually sell their coffee makers at a loss? I've always thought they were overpriced to begin with.
Probably if it factors in how much R&D went into the DRM, the production price per unit increases. Nothing else about it is terribly complicated.
The Boston Globe Magazine had a pretty good piece on them a few years back. It was far easier to read in print, but I think this the article:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/2011/0807/
Most of the R&D went into the cups themselves. Simple as they seem, it appears the company went through a lot of iterations to get the right gas mixture and volume right to have fresh coffee with long shelf-life.
Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass
#110One way to look at the razors and blades business model that Keurig is doing here is like so: 1. The consumer purphases product A (here the coffee maker) on the normal consumer market we're all familiar with. 2. Doing so forces the consumer to purchase product B (here K-cups) on a different market. Keurig's goal is to control the second market. By making having all the market power, they can jack up prices to the con…
I don't understand why it's a different market. Do you mean that cartridges are just intrinsically different from the actual machine using the cartridges? This is identical to printers, so would you say the market for ink cartridges is different than the market for printers? On a literal level I suppose this is correct, but I wouldn't consider pens and pen ink to be different markets... Maybe I haven't thought it through enough.