I'm a little curious. I use Skype semi regularly and it seems to work just fine for me.
But it seems everyone here hates it. Are there some "power user" features that don't work well or something?
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#102"Skype-killers" without end-to-end encryption are useless.
This is really all I want as well. There's tons of pretty messaging apps. Style isn't enough to sway me anymore - I want privacy. How hard is it to make a messaging app that makes encryption its #1 priority?
Pretty hard, but it's coming. See http://labs.bittorrent.com/bleep
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#103"What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. It seems like it's the default goto for anyone that can't think of something more interesting these days.
>"What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever.
The usual negative HN top post.
I have to disagree. We've moved from irc, to ICQ, to Microsoft Messenger, to ..., to Skype, to (what's hot now), so somehow all those people really DID want another messaging app and even adopted one.
>It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging.
Most of the Skype killers are either crap or crippled in other ways (e.g. Facetime being Apple only).
And we're ways before coming up with the "be all end all" messaging app, so there's plenty of room for innovation in the area.
In general this comment reminds me of the "640K should be enough for everybody" quote...
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
We didn't need yet another IRC clone, and yet Slack seems to be cleaning up. The core value prop of the internet is easy communication. Don't be surprised when people continue to iterate on it.
Slack was doing it for me until recently. I could paste code and it would format it correctly. It looked great although a bit sluggish at times. Then I tried to share a Pages document...
So? Even if it turned out badly, that's one bug for a rather obscure use case that can be fixed anyway...
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#105Doesn't require a mobile number to sign up, that's new.
Privacy policy is predictably gritty though.
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#106I will definitely try this
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#107Not surprised this is from ex-Skype people, no desktop. Quality isnt something I have attached to the skype brand.
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#108Oh its everywhere! Except... Windows, Linux, BlackBerry, Windows Phone, Web... iOS, OS X and Android is far from everywhere.
I can understand why they wouldn't support Linux/Blackberry/WP. As a Linux user I'm used to that. But not having windows support? Really?
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#109They won't use a standard protocol even if it makes lots of sense for the users. For them, they fear being commoditized as a result of using a standard. Same reason why Hangouts will stop being available through XMPP anytime soon. It's very sad that these companies are so short-sighted, and can only think of small profit for themselves.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Telegram isn't secure? Source please.
It's the other way around. Messaging apps need to demonstrate their own security by releasing the source code. So far only TextSecure does this.
One doesn't demonstrate security by releasing the source.
One needs to have source released, audited and verified to match prebuilt binaries that are actually used by the unwashed gray masses. Without all three checked for each public build you have zero assurance that you are running a binary built from the released source and that the source doesn't have anything fishy in it.
The only app that checks all three, somewhat ironically, is TrueCrypt. PGPfone checked #1 and #3. TextSecure checks just #1 unless I am missing something, so objectively its "demonstrated security" is exactly the same as that of any another app that simply describes what it does in plain English and has a traffic to prove it.