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Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by badgersandjam » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 6:29 PM UTC

BloatControl wrote: post #46

drapper wrote: post #17

In my previous experiences with VS Express the installed version took about 10GBs of disk space and included plenty of stuff I didn't want or cared about, like various versions of MS SQL Server, support for VB, different runtimes for .NET, etc. Anyone knows if there's a way to avoid that? I'd like to have "just an IDE", for node and web development.

Welcome to the Mickysoft BloatWorld. And do not forget to get the new 700+ MB Update, so you can live up to even more bloat - this update alone flatulated 5+ GB on the harddrives I have seen. This is not just about "style" or "personal preference", it is a serious problem: it eats too much energy and therefore destroys the planet, millions of old but perfectly usable devices are transformed into highly dangerous toxi…

It pays the bills because it solves problems.

I run windows on a 4 year old thinkpad. It's 8.1 on an i5. It goes like lightning and the battery lasts twice as long as Ubuntu does on the same kit even after powertop has been frigged with.

Also my wife's android handset has 25% more battery capacity than my Lumia 630 and lasts half as long.

YMMV but what you state is not factual and merely a slashdot-esque troll.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by _lce0 » Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 6:37 PM UTC

Maakuth wrote: post #52

_lce0 wrote: post #44

their download button points to an .exe file, no matter with OS are you running

It's a Windows application though, what are you going to do with it if you can't run exe?

Exactly. They don't even care of hiding that button for others OS

Also, why the hate?

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by overcertified » Sat, Nov 22, 2014, 11:47 PM UTC

phaemon wrote: post #69

bovermyer wrote: post #42

A lot of people seem to think that steps like this are just Microsoft catching up. Which, I suppose, they are. But there's something else here too - this kind of thing, where Microsoft is opening up to the open source community, releasing more free tools, releasing more open source projects, all started happening when Satya Nadella took the reins. I think what we're looking at is a CEO that gets it and is trying to m…

The SDXC card format specifies exFAT as a mandatory feature - a proprietary, patent-encumbered filesystem from Microsoft. This makes it very difficult to legally support these SD cards in Open Source operating systems. When they stop pulling crap like that, maybe I'll believe in the "new Microsoft".

Get used to it

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by Ecio78 » Sun, Nov 23, 2014, 8:02 AM UTC

teh_klev wrote: post #81

patja wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is less permissive than Express was though, isn't it? I was under the impression there were no restrictions on who could use Express. If Express goes away now, some organizations will be shut out of the Community Edition due to its licensing terms and have to pay.

If you're running a "non-enterprise" commercial development team with > 5 full time MS devs and you're building apps of any sort of complexity I suspect you won't be using the Express editions anyway. I'm one of two developers in a company of 12 and Express doesn't really cut the mustard for the stuff we're doing which is only moderately complex. Also bear in mind you're still getting five free installs before having…

I work in a company that could be labelled as enterprise, thus I think I couldn't use the Community edition. The problem is that I'm not one of the developers (I am a sysadmin), but I had installed the Express edition in the past for example to simply compile some code that I found online (free).

Same happened in my past companies, "real" developers were using full blown VS but I was sometimes doing some small project (not as side project, small = "quick hack that I needed and developers had no time to do that")

If they stop releasing Express edition (that's not clear, I've not searched if Community will superseed Express or if they'll keep both) it will be impossible for me to do so.

Having said that, I think this fully featured Community edition is interesting