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Re: Apple Mac Mini

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Post by mbreese »

walshemj wrote: post #60
mbreese wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better for some uses... one of the major use cases for the mini is for media storage or file sharing, in which case I'd gladly trade speed for space.

then why 5400k? At work (90% mac shop) we are just looking at what to do for a central server. Apple isn't supporting that market very well - they need a shuttle sff size mac midi that uses full fat non mobile parts. The gen 8 HP micro severs are just so much better

Honestly, it could be due to heat issues. It's a small device and faster drives can get hot.

Apple has tried to support that market before, and it's just not a big market, and it isn't a one-size fits all market. Many people have been clamoring for an Apple solution for SMB server, and it just isn't profitable. This is especially true when you take into account cloud shared storage providers like Dropbox or Box.net.

It's also a market that is more focused on margins. It's easier to charge a higher margin for a device you use everyday, but what about one that you install in a closet or put in a corner and forget?

An HP microserver running FreeNAS is a tough combination to beat for an SMB central server.

Re: Apple Mac Mini

#102

Post by mbreese »

smackfu wrote: post #74
jrochkind1 wrote: post #17

Not a bad price until you see it costs $300 to go from 4GB RAM to 16GB RAM. Do these have user-upgradeable RAM? I can buy RAM a lot cheaper than that.

This page makes it a bit unclear: http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/mac-mini 4GB of 1600MHz LPDDR3 memory Configurable to 8GB or 16GB, only at the Apple Online Store.

That means that you can't go to a physical Apple Store and buy one with more than 4GB of RAM, not that you can't personally install more RAM.

Re: Apple Mac Mini

#103

Post by calinet6 »

Tloewald wrote: post #35
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #34

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Wow, that's quite the downgrade. What's the logic here? To save energy to keep it fanless? Or is this cost-cutting?

I would imagine being energy efficient and cheap is their main goal. This is the kind of computer people will leave on, plugged into their TV.

Ding ding ding. My TV and home media and general server needs are powered by a Mid-2010 Mac Mini 4,1 with a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, which is most certainly less than half the horsepower of this new model [1], and it works great. This would only be an improvement for this or any other use.

[1] Hey, I was right: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2238&cmp[]=14...

Re: Apple Mac Mini

#104

Post by srcmap »

lokeshk wrote: post #21

I'm slightly bummed that I can't get SSD on their starting model, and have to force myself to a fusion drive if I want to do better than hard drive.

It is fairly easy to swap out the sata HDD with a sata SSD, right?

Re: Apple Mac Mini

#105

Post by jsmeaton »

Tloewald wrote: post #35
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, that's quite the downgrade. What's the logic here? To save energy to keep it fanless? Or is this cost-cutting?

I would imagine being energy efficient and cheap is their main goal. This is the kind of computer people will leave on, plugged into their TV.

Yup. If I was to put together another HTPC, this would be the ideal product I think (something that runs XBMC). I spent about $800 (sigh..) on putting together something a lot bulkier and noisier about a year ago.

Re: Apple Mac Mini

#106

Post by tiagotalbuquerq »

mbreese wrote: post #102
smackfu wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This page makes it a bit unclear: http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/mac-mini 4GB of 1600MHz LPDDR3 memory Configurable to 8GB or 16GB, only at the Apple Online Store.

That means that you can't go to a physical Apple Store and buy one with more than 4GB of RAM, not that you can't personally install more RAM.

Seems that new generation of apple's hardware comes with RAM welded, being un-upgradable after "bought".

Re: Apple Mac Mini

#107

Post by Tiksi »

cherry_su wrote: post #87
rm445 wrote: post #65

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Then why not the current p/GB sweet spot, a 3TB disk?

There are no 2.5" 3TB drives, and even if one existed, it would be 12.5mm (or more), which may be too thick for Mac mini (standard 2.5" drive thickness is 9.5mm).

But there are 2TB 9.5mm drives, which would still be far better than a 500GB.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178...

Re: Apple Mac Mini

#108

Post by rudedogg »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #17

Not a bad price until you see it costs $300 to go from 4GB RAM to 16GB RAM. Do these have user-upgradeable RAM? I can buy RAM a lot cheaper than that.

I just asked support and they say it is not user upgradeable, and to add RAM at purchase time if you'll need it.

Re: Apple Mac Mini

#109

Post by ksec »

umeshunni wrote: post #31
gambiting wrote: post #10

I seriously do not understand how can it ship with a 500GB 5400rpm drive by default. This gives such poor experience to the user that Apple should have opted for all-ssd approach two generations ago. Very disappointed by that.

Agree - a 128gb ssd would have been better than that and cost roughly the same.

Yes but i guess Apple is slightly concern with the space. ( But they should still have use the 128GB SSD and push for iCloud Drive instead )

I hope when 256GB SSD comes down to the price point as 128 they will make the switch.

Re: Apple Mac Mini

#110

Post by burnte »

zanny wrote: post #50
swinglock wrote: post #29

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Correct. Yesterday a the entry Mac Mini was $599 and had a 2.5GHz dual-core i5 with 4GB of RAM.

I hate the Intel nomenclature break on mobile vs desktop. On desktops, Celeron is dual core, i3 is dual core with hyperthreading, i5 is quad core, and i7 is quad core with hyperthreading. On the other front, they mix random clock values and core counts across skews so you never know if your i7 is a quad core with hyperthreading (4750Q for example) or a low power dual core (4700U) because there the suffixes on the par…

I believe you are incorrect. i3 has hyperthreading, i5 has turboboost, and i7 has both. If what you say were true, I shouldn't be able to get a dual core i5 or i7 in the latest Minis. store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/mac-mini?product=MGEN2LL/A&step=config
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