Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Browser tabs will only confuse people". Ha!
Actually I still argue that tabs are a Bad Thing. Developers have taken a thing that SHOULD be handled by the window manager, and written their own way of doing it -- every application slightly differently, naturally. It's not as big a deal on Windows where the look+feel of various applications was always inconsistent as hell -- remember when Trillian was the most popular IM client, it seemed like in those days virtu…
The Microsoft Empire Reboots
101–110 of 173 posts
Re: The Microsoft Empire Reboots
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've personally watched an essentially-non-programmer take VB.NET, drag-n-drop, write some event handlers, and have a functioning little app. So while VB6's IDE is faster than the ".NET" Visual Studios, most of your other complaints are really not valid.
Yeah the complaint is ridiculous and this coming from someone who learnt on VB 6. VB 6's IDE cost $500+ at the time and even getting the education edition was a huge PITA (it was HEAVILY pirated by students). VB.net and C# (and F#) are free [legal] downloads from the internet and both just as capable as VB6 was back in the day (the things Visual Studio Pro and above add aren't really relevant to beginners, except the…
This, exactly this.
The transition to .NET was a blessing, VB6 is really useless for anything else than "basic business apps" and even then!
IIRC you could only read/write a file (raw data) byte by byte (ok, that was before VB6, still...)
Re: The Microsoft Empire Reboots
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Browser tabs will only confuse people". Ha!
Actually I still argue that tabs are a Bad Thing. Developers have taken a thing that SHOULD be handled by the window manager, and written their own way of doing it -- every application slightly differently, naturally. It's not as big a deal on Windows where the look+feel of various applications was always inconsistent as hell -- remember when Trillian was the most popular IM client, it seemed like in those days virtu…
Re: The Microsoft Empire Reboots
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
This, a million times. I'm a bit further down the abstraction chain but I am thoroughly glad I sit there all day writing C/C++ for Windows native (win32) GUI applications. I know once I've tested it on one machine it's going to work fine on all the other ones. It's the most stable API and platform I've ever seen. Code we wrote for Windows NT4 works fine on Windows 8.1 and behaves exactly the same. Compare that to our…
I used to work at Microsoft (SQL Server). It goes without saying, but getting here is an intentional, conscious thing Microsoft spends billions of dollars to achieve. Working in SF in earlier-stage companies, I've never seen anything even close to the rigor with which Microsoft approached testing. Definitely consider working there if you want to learn from some of the best QA/QE/verification engineers in the industry…
Re: The Microsoft Empire Reboots
#105The biggest shift I've noticed in Microsoft in recent years is its support and push for open source, cross platform components and projects. It seems that there may be a paradigm shift towards selling tools and an integrated platform while providing more choice and making inroads into the open source comminities. This is exciting for me because I absolutely love .net and friends, but I'm also a Linux engineer and lea…
Re: The Microsoft Empire Reboots
#106Re: The Microsoft Empire Reboots
#107Their greatest mistake(s) were the removal of visual basic 6 line of products and windows 10. Visual basic 6 is my first programming language and is probably still my favourite. The problem with lua and python and most other "beginner friendly" languages is that it is hard to do anything useful when u are just starting other than printing hello world to terminal. My intro to vb6 was creating a simple calculator, it w…
It's probably for the best though - the code we wrote is almost certainly quite ugly and hacky, and I could certainly write the same programs much better today.
Re: The Microsoft Empire Reboots
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can tell they brainwashed you well in Cupertino. ;) They probably left out the part where Jobs borrowed the ideas for the Mac from Xerox I suspect too. More accurately, there is probably a Mac here because they were building Office for it.
Nah. All the cool kids in the 80's wanted the Amiga. The Mac was a toy. The story of Jobs' visit to Xerox Parc is well documented. They paid a million dollars for the visits. http://www.macstories.net/linked/parc-scientist-larry-tesler... http://www.cultofmac.com/126863/in-defense-of-steve-jobs/
Re: The Microsoft Empire Reboots
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually I still argue that tabs are a Bad Thing. Developers have taken a thing that SHOULD be handled by the window manager, and written their own way of doing it -- every application slightly differently, naturally. It's not as big a deal on Windows where the look+feel of various applications was always inconsistent as hell -- remember when Trillian was the most popular IM client, it seemed like in those days virtu…
If you really want the window manager to handle your browser windows then just open new windows instead of opening tabs. All of your window manager's fancy window switching features, etc. will work.
Re: The Microsoft Empire Reboots
#110The biggest shift I've noticed in Microsoft in recent years is its support and push for open source, cross platform components and projects. It seems that there may be a paradigm shift towards selling tools and an integrated platform while providing more choice and making inroads into the open source comminities. This is exciting for me because I absolutely love .net and friends, but I'm also a Linux engineer and lea…
I don't think it's a huge shift as much as it is getting back to its roots. MS got its start by being the company that supported the PC as an open platform. Anyone could build a PC, any individual, any OEM, and put DOS or Windows on it. And anyone could write an app to run on DOS or Windows. For the time it was a remarkably free wheeling and open system, especially compared to what other companies like Apple was doin…