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The iPhone 6 Review

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Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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iaskwhy wrote: post #90
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #33

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This is classic bikeshedding. A lot of mobile device reviews are pretty unsophisticated, so there's a lot of spilled ink about button location, how the metal/plastic feels, etc. Its a strange regression. Like we just can't judge or weigh the complexity of a modern mobile OS and all its services and apps and just take on this simplified, "Uh, it looks nice" point of view. Strange that even a hard-nosed tech site like…

Just the other I realised Jobs was right saying the size of the iPhone was perfect because of human thumb size, his mistake at the time (assuming he really thought this through and wasn't just being a salesman) was to think consumers would always value the ergonomics above everything else. In time, even Apple realised consumers were probably favouring other things like the screen size itself even when ergonomics suff…

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Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by arrrg »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #33
SwellJoe wrote: post #11

It's amusing how much space is devoted to the location of buttons and ports. I don't recall ever thinking, "I want a phone with the power button on the right side and the charge port on the bottom. Those are my primary requirements." Phone hardware just isn't interesting, anymore. We've reached the point that personal computers reached a couple decades ago: They're all pretty good and not much different from the mode…

This is classic bikeshedding. A lot of mobile device reviews are pretty unsophisticated, so there's a lot of spilled ink about button location, how the metal/plastic feels, etc. Its a strange regression. Like we just can't judge or weigh the complexity of a modern mobile OS and all its services and apps and just take on this simplified, "Uh, it looks nice" point of view. Strange that even a hard-nosed tech site like…

What’s wrong with caring about tight tolerances and good material choices? What’s wrong about caring about good feeling buttons? (This is besides the point, but I actually disagree with AnandTech there, the buttons on the 6 feel markedly worse then the 5s ones, they jiggle ever so slightly.)

I really don’t get why you think it’s not rational to care about these things. I really don’t get that. It is literally incomprehensible to me. Can you explain that to me?

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by seunosewa »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #60
Alphasite_ wrote: post #50

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No, but there isn't any low hanging fruit.

There are tons of ways to innovate with smartphones, but the technology to do so is either too young, too niche or hasn't made it beyond the drawing board. To pick three innovative features that have made it into real smartphones, you can look at the Samsung Galaxy Beam pico projector, Jolla's 'The Other Half', and the YotaPhone E-Ink backscreen. Some would argue that these are gimmicks, but isn't all innovation a li…

Shatter-proof screens would be more revolutionary.

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by MichaelApproved »

coob wrote: post #54
MichaelApproved wrote: post #16

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Further, the buttons are designed poorly. I use a pinching motion to click the power button. My thumb and index finger grip the phone and I put pressure on my thumb to click the power button. Unfortunately, that means the volume button also gets pressed with my index finger. The phone won't lock when both those buttons are pressed at the same time. It's frustrating. I have to grip the phone unnaturally so that I don'…

I tried to replicate your problem but I can only seem to do it when holding the 6 with just the forefinger and thumb (right handed). What are you other three fingers doing? I tend to grip with thumb on the right edge, index finger resting on the back and last 3 fingers holding the right edge. Are you an amputee?

> What are you other three fingers doing? I tend to grip with thumb on the right edge, index finger resting on the back and last 3 fingers holding the right edge.

Do you mean "last 3 fingers holding the left edge? That style seems to be a minority, based on a quick Google image search. If fingers are wrapped around a phone, the index is with the rest of the 3 fingers.

This is how I hold my phone http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/isolated-woman-hand-holding-p...

Check out the image search for examples. Most hold it the way I'm describing: https://www.google.com/search?q=holding+phone

> Are you an amputee?

no

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by chrisBob »

hahainternet wrote: post #77
chrisBob wrote: post #63

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Why "her"? Is this because you are sexist and trying to degrade Apple, because you consider Apple to be a god, or are you pushing for better women's rights by using feminine pronouns by default? I really am curious.

Isn't that a false trichotomy?

Those were my first three guesses. Perhaps I should have just left it open ended.

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by seunosewa »

josefresco wrote: post #18
personZ wrote: post #12

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I see comments like yours fairly frequently, and it really is bizarro world. It's buying into an obviously untrue narrative that hasn't been true...well..ever. Apple makes a really big deal about their cores and GPU, as they have every right to (they're pretty great). Quite aside from their keynotes that focus extensively on this, on the product page you learn, right near the top, about the A8 64-bit processor and M8…

Agreed, and I'm old enough to remember their (cherry-picked) performance claims in the desktop/cpu world when they had to compete with Wintel machines. What Apple doesn't do, is release products that compete solely based on these hardware specs. Their approach is "yeah it's fast enough, but it's also beautful etc."

Unfortunately, their products are not consistently beautiful anymore, IMHO. Examples: iPhone 5s silicone case with circles, antenna lines on the back of the new iPhones. :-/

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by baddox »

SwellJoe wrote: post #11

It's amusing how much space is devoted to the location of buttons and ports. I don't recall ever thinking, "I want a phone with the power button on the right side and the charge port on the bottom. Those are my primary requirements." Phone hardware just isn't interesting, anymore. We've reached the point that personal computers reached a couple decades ago: They're all pretty good and not much different from the mode…

I completely disagree that all phones have pretty good hardware (referring to the handset itself, not the electronics). Flagship Android phones like the Nexus 5, Galaxy S5, and Moto X have, in my opinion, far worse hardware than all iPhones back to the iPhone 4. The HTC One comes close, and the Lumia phones have an interesting unique design, and of course there are a few top end phones I haven't seen in person.

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by baddox »

stevewepay wrote: post #22
georgespencer wrote: post #19

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> after putting it in my back pocket and sitting down on it > the bending issue is very real I'd suggest that the issue is that you're a guy who thinks sitting on $1,000 of glass and aluminium is a normal thing to do.

I did this all the time with my iPhone 3, 4 and 5 without any issues which is why it developed into a habit. The fact that I can't do that with the iPhone 6 is a surprise and disappointment.

There are lots of bad ideas that can be performed many times before they become a problem.

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by ZenoArrow »

seunosewa wrote: post #103
ZenoArrow wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are tons of ways to innovate with smartphones, but the technology to do so is either too young, too niche or hasn't made it beyond the drawing board. To pick three innovative features that have made it into real smartphones, you can look at the Samsung Galaxy Beam pico projector, Jolla's 'The Other Half', and the YotaPhone E-Ink backscreen. Some would argue that these are gimmicks, but isn't all innovation a li…

Shatter-proof screens would be more revolutionary.

Not really. Screens on most high end smartphones are already toughened, you'd just end up with an evolutionary improvement rather than a revolutionary one. Plus, there's no such thing as shatter-proof, so the screens should be easily replaceable as well.

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by karmelapple »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #33
SwellJoe wrote: post #11

It's amusing how much space is devoted to the location of buttons and ports. I don't recall ever thinking, "I want a phone with the power button on the right side and the charge port on the bottom. Those are my primary requirements." Phone hardware just isn't interesting, anymore. We've reached the point that personal computers reached a couple decades ago: They're all pretty good and not much different from the mode…

This is classic bikeshedding. A lot of mobile device reviews are pretty unsophisticated, so there's a lot of spilled ink about button location, how the metal/plastic feels, etc. Its a strange regression. Like we just can't judge or weigh the complexity of a modern mobile OS and all its services and apps and just take on this simplified, "Uh, it looks nice" point of view. Strange that even a hard-nosed tech site like…

You've argued that the tech is "fine," which means it's commoditized.

Commoditized parts don't get mentioned in reviews. (I don't know what USB driver is in my laptop because who cares? It's a commodity)

What is left, then, other than device ergonomics, appearance, and other things that differentiate devices?

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