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Re: Weird pricing of Dropbox Pro

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Post by simonh »

PinguTS wrote: post #93
simonh wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, he's saying what he's saying. A $1300 Macbook costs £1,000 here in the UK which is roughly 30% more expensive than a direct currency conversion would have you expect. If you take that $1300 Macbook, add 30% and convert that to Euros it just happens to be that it works out at about €1300 which is what they charge in Germany. Someone posted about that here earlier. Most of that 30% is due to VAT at around 20% for m…

You forgot, that all US prices are missing the sales tax. So, you are comparing US prices without tax with your countries price including tax.

The VAT I talked about is Value Added Tax, which is what sales tax is called in Europe.

Re: Weird pricing of Dropbox Pro

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Post by Igglyboo »

PinguTS wrote: post #93
simonh wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, he's saying what he's saying. A $1300 Macbook costs £1,000 here in the UK which is roughly 30% more expensive than a direct currency conversion would have you expect. If you take that $1300 Macbook, add 30% and convert that to Euros it just happens to be that it works out at about €1300 which is what they charge in Germany. Someone posted about that here earlier. Most of that 30% is due to VAT at around 20% for m…

You forgot, that all US prices are missing the sales tax. So, you are comparing US prices without tax with your countries price including tax.

In the US it is not common to show a price after sales tax, like it is in Europe with VAT.

Also, not all states have the same amount of sales tax and some have no tax at all. It would be impossible to show the prices with sales tax when there are 50 different states with differing sales tax laws.

Re: Weird pricing of Dropbox Pro

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Post by rglullis »

icebraining wrote: post #94
speeder wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When my sister went to a backpack trip.visiting lots of countries in Europe ( she visited England, Holland, and lots of countries.between.there and Croatia, Hungary, etc...) she was surprised.about how much everything was.cheaper than Brazil, government efficiency is always impressive, the more efficient your government is, the lower the prices compared to other countries,.nevermind.comparing to your own income ( ie:…

That sounds off. What kind of prices? Brazil has high import taxes, so stuff like iPhones will be much more expensive, but I frankly don't believe that "everything" is cheaper in the UK or Netherlands. Numbeo corroborates this: http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?coun...

It's more complicated than OP says, but not too far off. In big cities like São Paulo or Rio, the prices of services have skyrocketed in the past 5 years or so. The only thing that can be considered cheap in Brazil currently is electricity, and that is only if we compare with Europe. And this is due only to most of Brazil having a tropical climate, which eliminates the need for residential heating.

If you go for groceries, and you see that staple food hasn't increased much, but meat/poultry/fish has gone up in prices due to local producers increasing their prices to match the exporters - so now a kilo of decent beef steaks is around R$35 (~US$15,50), when it could be had for R$10 in 2008.

Entertainment is expensive: movie tickets for US$15. Paul McCartney played in São Paulo a few years back and the cheapest tickets were going for US$300. Nightclubs all have a cover charge of at least US$30. A bus ride from São Paulo to Rio (which is equivalent to Boston-NYC) costs +/- US$30. Any passable restaurant will cost at least US$35/person. I went to visit my parents last year, we went out for a nice pizza place by the beach - R$75 each pizza.

Taking a look at these things, if you are a Brazilian tourist visiting any European/North American city, most of the things you will see are not related to basic cost of living - mostly entertainment and general shopping - and these are indeed cheaper compared to Brazil.

Re: Weird pricing of Dropbox Pro

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Post by arjunnarayan »

nraynaud wrote: post #82
sugerman wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is to say they didn't do a "proper calculation" and result in something close enough to €99 that they just rounded up/down to keep things consistent?

India as 37 languages and a mess of a country, I guess they are selling their product for 150% of the American price there?

But many products are sold in India in English only. This is manifestly not the case in Europe.

Re: Weird pricing of Dropbox Pro

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Post by ferrullan »

The thing i love about Dropbox is that the more i use it the more extra space and "gigas"...they give me. As an early and heavy user (i've invited 20 friends or more so far) they want me happy and i can feel it. that's what i love. They are not charging me for anything,and they won't try it. they know what type of user i am (a happy user that invites all of its friends) so they treat me like the user i am. I am sure my extra space is billed on any friend i've invited to the platform..

Re: Weird pricing of Dropbox Pro

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Post by acdha »

deciplex wrote: post #79
dreen wrote: post #38

If you are in Europe I recommend hubiC instead of Dropbox. They are much cheaper and have servers in Europe (France - they are child company of OVH). Dropbox only has servers in America [1], so its slower. - 25GB free - 100GB 1€/m - 10TB 10€/m Yes you read that right, its TEN TIMES the space of Dropbox Pro, for the same price. Im not affiliated or anything, just a satisfied customer. [1] - https://www.dropbox.com/hel…

Also, they don't hand your data over to the US government.

That's too pat a response:

- You don't know that Dropbox does.

- You don't know that hubiC doesn't turn data over to their government or whether it's shared with allies.

- You don't know whether either of them have bugs which can be exploited by a MITM – or will in a coming update…

Government spying requires political changes to establish a culture of oversight and accountability. You're fooling yourself if you think that choosing one company over another is anything other than an exercise in distraction when the attacker has the power to compel access with a gag order.

Re: Weird pricing of Dropbox Pro

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Post by jonifico »

I remember when Steam did this back in the day (not sure if it still happens today) and it was a total shame. Lots of people using proxies to get US pricing on the other side of the pond. Now, I don't really know how the whole taxing thing moves about, but, are foreign customers forced to pay taxes for these kinds of products since they're considered 'imported'? Or maybe, do companies feel they should get more money to keep operating abroad? I'm just trying to look for possible explanations, but we all know this is just a cheeky, greedy play from these companies.

Re: Weird pricing of Dropbox Pro

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Post by chrisseaton »

elorant wrote: post #97

It’s funny this is mentioned because just today I found out that the conversion rates at Asos.com from pound to euro are off by 12%. They calculate the conversion dividing by 0.70 instead of 0.79. So basically everyone buying products with prices based in euro is been ripped-off.

But there are no official exchange rates are there? So how can they be wrong? You must mean they're not as favourable as that which other companies are offering. In which case it's not a 'rip-off', it's just as good as deal as you might like it to be.

Re: Weird pricing of Dropbox Pro

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Post by nemesisj »

dreen wrote: post #38

If you are in Europe I recommend hubiC instead of Dropbox. They are much cheaper and have servers in Europe (France - they are child company of OVH). Dropbox only has servers in America [1], so its slower. - 25GB free - 100GB 1€/m - 10TB 10€/m Yes you read that right, its TEN TIMES the space of Dropbox Pro, for the same price. Im not affiliated or anything, just a satisfied customer. [1] - https://www.dropbox.com/hel…

Do you know if they offer 2 factor authentication? I've been so annoyed with Dropbox support for the past 2 months I'm actively looking for a replacement, but it needs to have 2 factor auth.

Re: Weird pricing of Dropbox Pro

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Post by PinguTS »

Igglyboo wrote: post #102
PinguTS wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot, that all US prices are missing the sales tax. So, you are comparing US prices without tax with your countries price including tax.

In the US it is not common to show a price after sales tax, like it is in Europe with VAT. Also, not all states have the same amount of sales tax and some have no tax at all. It would be impossible to show the prices with sales tax when there are 50 different states with differing sales tax laws.

Funny thing (or not so funny, if you are small company), beginning next year you are required to do so in Europe. Amazon (AWS), Dropbox and alike have to indicate the tax (VAT) of the country the buyer is in and not anymore where the company is in-cooperated.

Current practice is, that the tax of the country, where the company is in-cooperated applies.

With that move, the EU wants, that every country is getting their share, and not like is now, that some countries are getting it. But this added bureaucracy is making it much harder for smaller companies.

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