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Re: Cider Project: Run iOS apps on Android

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Post by al2o3cr »

piyush_soni wrote: post #29
Someone1234 wrote: post #24

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Or maybe, just maybe, someone who has spent this much time developing a VM for Apple's software architecture has a great skillset and would be a welcome addition to one of Apple's teams. The same exact thing happened to the guy behind ReactOS (an Open Source Windows NT replacement). The guy became /so/ familiar with Windows that he eventually got a job on the actual Windows Kernel team.

Of course he'd have a great skillset, but still, he won't be working on the project. May be, just may be, Apple had different intentions behind taking this man in.

I'm not saying it was aliens, but...

Re: Cider Project: Run iOS apps on Android

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Post by mncolinlee »

fidotron wrote: post #11

“Users no longer need to be locked into one platform. Being able to write an app once and run it anywhere has been a long-sought-after goal and a very hard problem to solve.” This is naive, stupid, or both. There never was a technical cause of lock in (as indeed the Apportable people are not alone in demonstrating), it's purely an artificial business construct with the surmountable technical hurdles being very conven…

Having dealt with many of the dozens of hybrid platforms, I can assure you that most are slow, poorly integrated, and end up with hard-to-solve UX bugs in any complex application. This is because most of them are based upon producing Javascript and HTML5 with only a few native features.

I know that Apple doesn't want Android versions of their own applications, but there is no excuse why we have to have a discussion about Android first or Apple first for startups if the hybrid solutions were actually sufficient. In practice, there is always a tradeoff.

Also, Apple likes to write SDK features which break their security model that only they may use in their own apps.

Re: Cider Project: Run iOS apps on Android

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Post by mahyarm »

freehunter wrote: post #69
kristopolous wrote: post #61

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I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but does that honestly come through? I routinely turn down offers from the big players because I imagine once I'm in, it's going to be like the movie Brazil. I've worked for three large companies as a non-contractor - and I mean maybe I just didn't have the right title but I found the following (in all three): * I was prohibited from working on broken things that I was capable…

>I was prohibited from working on broken things that I was capable of fixing but I wasn't assigned to - even if nobody else was addressing them Coming from the other side, that's frustrating to me too. I was working with a broken tool that the vendor wanted $200,000 to fix. I hacked together a shell script over the course of a few weeks that eased my pain, but required I work in a Linux virtual machine. I would have…

Don't bring it up to the boss, he was probably trying protect his 'human resource turf' to meet his goals. He is evaluated on the performance & management of his team and your request was probably against that evaluation. Try talking to the programmer directly or maybe his boss and bring it up in a 'for the entire company' way.

Re: Cider Project: Run iOS apps on Android

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Post by yacine »

jaoued wrote: post #89
khalilup wrote: post #77

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Big up to myappconverter, There is documentation for your app

Its actually not an app but a code conversion service. Initially the service has been proposed as a full cloud based service but we are also working to release a code conversion plug-in for Xcode and ADT. Instead of uploading his code, the developer will perform the conversion within his preferred IDE. www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcFG_XbRrb0. Full doc will be available soon on gh.

Cheers!

Re: Cider Project: Run iOS apps on Android

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Post by SomeCallMeTim »

al2o3cr wrote: post #99
SomeCallMeTim wrote: post #31

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I actually thought it odd that they would cite iTunes as a feature that Android users would want . iTunes on Windows is one of the worst pieces of software by a major company...ever. If I want to buy music or video I can do it through Amazon, and I have vastly more trust for Amazon's pricing structures. (Remember the anti-trust suit that Apple lost? The one that found them guilty of artificially keeping eBook prices…

Yes, you should definitely trust the pricing of the company that started out the ebook business selling best-sellers for less than they had to pay in royalties to publishers. I mean, it couldn't possibly have been an attempt to drive competitors out of the space...

Umm...competitors? [Citation Needed]

What I remember is that Amazon created the e-book space, for all intents and purposes.

And the reason they undercut the royalty price was to create that market. People didn't want to spend $20 or more to buy an electronic copy of a book they could buy for less in physical form. People aren't stupid: If they aren't getting a physical item they can then hand to their friends and/or sell, then what they're getting has less value.

Heck, I still get annoyed by crazy-high eBook prices. An eBook should absolutely ALWAYS cost less than the physical copy. If there are 500 copies available used for $0.01 on Amazon, then it shouldn't be more than about $5 (paying a bit for the convenience of having a digital copy -- those $0.01 copies typically add ~$4 in shipping costs), and yet you can find $8-10 price on a Kindle edition. [1]

Amazon has a very strong customer focus. [2] That results in lower prices. It also makes it harder for competition, yes, but that "customer obsession" has become core to the culture at Amazon.

[1] First one I found: http://www.amazon.com/Against-All-Enemies-Tom-Clancy-ebook/d... -- it turns out many of the $.01 books are only $6 on Kindle, which is better than I thought, but it wasn't hard to find one greater than $8.

[2] See the first "leadership principle" on this page: http://www.amazon.com/Values-Careers-Homepage/b?ie=UTF8&node...

Re: Cider Project: Run iOS apps on Android

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Post by 72deluxe »

gue5t wrote: post #82
72deluxe wrote: post #78

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I'm curious: Would you have the same stance if you released some (non-free) software or a non-free hardware product and it was really successful? Would you want people to ignore the copyright then? Would you be happy for it to show up entirely cloned in the far East? People seem to have this disgust of Copyright / paying for music / paying for films / paying for software and justify it with vague arguments about "fat…

Piracy and dismissal of copyright isn't an egalitarian act of rebellion; it's a humanist recognition of the right of any person to freely engage with the world around them. I have enough material wealth, and if I make something that's actually useful it would be great to see people building versions of it that better suit their specific needs. That said, it is fun to say "fuck the man", and often doing the right thin…

If I had some copyright on software that I sold, would you be happy copying and dismissing my copyright then?

You may say that copyright is a loss to society, but as an individual that is part of the society, I would be losing out from your infringement of my copyright. That would mean that my individual loss would equate to a loss within that society.

Or am I not part of society? Does my copyright mean nothing to you?

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