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Re: Be Nice Or Leave

#101

A saying that I heard a long time ago, that really stuck with me (both as a business owner, and from the flipside as a customer): You can shear a sheep many times, but you can skin it only once. If you go in for the kill, and really take advantage of someone in a transaction (i.e, skin the sheep), that will likely signal the end of any (positive) transactions with that person, unless you have a monopoly or other such…

Game theory's star child, the prisoner's dilemma, also shows this principle quite nicely. As long as you plan on never working with that person again it is in your best interest to screw them over. If you plan on working with them indefiniately then the best known strategy is to treat them as they treat you, and to start off on a good foot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat

In real life, as opposed to thought experiments, it's hard to tell when, where, and in what circumstances you will meet someone again. I don't think it's ever in your best interest to screw anyone over.

We exist in a web of relationships with membership in overlapping but distinct communities. As entrepreneurs we can be seen as agents of chaos by the status quo but our aim is innovation that leaves society on balance better off.

Of course we have to make a profit for our businesses to continue, but there are other gains that come from entrepreneurship beyond the financial that lead us to invest in our employees education, to invest in our communities and to “leave a little money on the table” when dealing with partners and suppliers in the interest of good will and future relationships.

Business is situated in community and a social context: a good reputation as fair dealer committed to the values of the community, as evidenced by actual kindness and charity will create more value in the long run than treating every transaction as the last one you will ever do with the other party.

Re: Be Nice Or Leave

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post #36

Almost everybody I have ever learned something truly valuable from was a nice person. I have yet to meet an example of the single-minded-asshole-genius who is actually a success. Most of the truly credible successes I have met are nice people and highly regarded.

While this is mostly based on hearsay, what about Steve Jobs? From all the anecdotal accounts and unsubstantiated rumors I have heard, Steve Jobs was a reasonably intelligent, single-minded asshole, and Steve Wozniak was the super-nice-guy genius.

Everybody always pulls Steve Jobs out of the bag to try and illustrate the asshole boss paradigm.

Steve Jobs also used to burst into tears in the Boardroom sobbing about how unfair the system was.

I don't see many management books advocating that approach...bawling your eyes out until your business partners acquiesce.

But, if I ever meet a Steve Jobs, a single minded visionary who is seeking to shape the entire paradigm of personal computing...

...I still wouldn't let him talk to me the way Isaacson reports in his book. Fuck Steve Jobs.

Plus, when it came down to the wire, Microsoft owned them. Literally.

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running low margins in retail is often more of a really cutthroat business strategy, rather than simply trying to be nice to customers. You can easily run smaller competitors out of business, and increase your volume and overall profits, by making the competition unable to compete.

"Predatory pricing" has the name it has becuase its..not 'nice' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_pricing

It is also one of the easiest ways to bankrupt your own business.

Business Admin 101 - Approaches to combat Predatory Pricing.

http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/herbert-dow-and-predat...

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#104

There appear to be a number of anecdotes in the book Hatching Twitter where Fred Wilson is painted as the bad guy. I wonder how much of this was for the book, or how possibly I am misinterpreting it.

I have not read the book myself. I do have a former coworker who was fairly involved in the early days Twitter, who told me the book definitely was a biased account of events. I would not blindly trust it.

Re: Be Nice Or Leave

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Neil Gaiman “You get work however you get work, but keep people keep working in a freelance world (and more and more of todays world is freelance), because their work is good, because they are easy to get along with and because they deliver the work on time. And you don’t even need all three! Two out of three is fine. People will tolerate how unpleasant you are if your work is good and you deliver it on time. People…

Great link, thanks. I found this venn diagram of the statement here:

http://neil-gaiman.tumblr.com/post/25016190500/batsandbones-...

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post #103
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Predatory pricing" has the name it has becuase its..not 'nice' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_pricing

It is also one of the easiest ways to bankrupt your own business. Business Admin 101 - Approaches to combat Predatory Pricing. http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/herbert-dow-and-predat...

Predatory pricing is usually subsidized by unrelated but profitable lines of other business--which makes it sustainable (in that context).

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post #106
post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is also one of the easiest ways to bankrupt your own business. Business Admin 101 - Approaches to combat Predatory Pricing. http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/herbert-dow-and-predat...

Predatory pricing is usually subsidized by unrelated but profitable lines of other business--which makes it sustainable (in that context).

Evidence?
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