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Re: US man finds lost mother in an isolated Amazon tribe

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All: The coincidence of an HN user being personally close to this story is so remarkable that we have put James' comment [1] at the top of the thread, using the same method we occasionally use for moderation announcements. This is very rare—I don't think we've ever done it before. It does occasionally happen that one commenter is uniquely close to a story, or knowledgeable about it, in an HN thread. I've thought for…

Did you verify that the HN user is who they claim to be?

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#102
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We changed the url from http://www.news.com.au/travel/world-travel/son-finds-his-los... , which was copied from this.

You should add a regex for that your submission page. Everything on news.com.au that isn't about Australian politics or sport is "syndicated" from US media.

That's not true.

Perhaps surprisingly there are places outside the US and Australia that have News Ltd-owned newspapers. I've heard there are a few in the UK for example..

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#103
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Old men marrying children is common in many parts of the world. http://www.unicef.org/protection/57929_58008.html http://tooyoungtowed.org/

>Old men marrying children is common in many parts of the world. There are quite a few shitty people in the world. As much as many of us hate to admit it, there are also quite a few shitty cultures. Any 36 year-old man, from any culture that has ever existed, that finds it acceptable to marry a 9-12 year old and then start raping her when she's 13 is a piece of shit. Any culture or individual that condones such behav…

" Any culture or individual that condones such behavior shouldn't exist anymore."

You and a terrorist would have so much to talk about.

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#104
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> Any 36 year-old man ... that finds it acceptable to marry a 9-12 year old and then start raping her when she's 13 is a piece of shit I would assume she fully expected to have sex with her husband, 13 years old or not. To suggest this was rape, against her will, is a bit preposterous and an incorrect usage of the word. At the same time I find it reprehensible that a 36 year old American, whose culture says underage…

>To suggest this was rape, against her will, is a bit preposterous and an incorrect usage of the word There are different kinds of rape. It doesn't really matter if a 13 year-old consents. How many 13 year-olds do you know that are mature enough to make such a decision?

I don't know any, but I don't live in the Amazon. If you ask them, they might say yes. And apparently she chose him, so...

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#105
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Is the article factually correct? And if so, does he have a strong relationship with his father?

Which aspects are you questioning? It's not my favorite piece I've seen published — I don't think it covers some areas in enough detail and leaves room for insinuation (e.g. Yarima was young when they met, but it wasn't until years had gone by that a relationship occurred. They (David's parents) have spoken as recently as ~7 months ago on a satellite phone, and Yarima has expressed interested on returning to America…

Which other article(s) do you feel are more accurate and paint a more complete/clear picture?

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#107

>They also have no word for “love.” This is the kind of thing that makes the article unambiguously Western-ethnocentric. They obviously know the concept of love. His mother wept tears of joy at the arrival of her son.

I agree. That single sentence irritated me immensely. It was a ham-fisted and misguided attempt to emphasize the 'exoticness' of the Yanomami.

They don't hug either. A mother can't hug her son. The example does imply they are not an affectionate people.

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#109
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Are you sure that is usually how the story plays out? I don't know, but I also don't trust the usual sources as they have their own agenda. Perhaps the percentage of rapists there is not higher than in the Western world? I also think it is very difficult to judge from a different culture. For example, what if the girls are being killed if they can't be married? (Again, I have no idea about the real workings of those…

>For example, what if the girls are being killed if they can't be married? If this were the kind of culture that a person lived in, why not just marry them to save their lives and then not consummate the relationship? >Are you sure that is usually how the story plays out? In cultures that allow children to be married to adults, yes, this is usually how it plays out. Also, I realize there is a possibility that this pa…

"why not just marry them to save their lives and then not consummate the relationship?"

That's what I meant - perhaps it often works out that way, and only the rape cases are being reported to the western world for emotional effect.

"I just responded to the oft-repeated claim that we should try to be more understanding of pedophiles if and only if they are from a different culture."

I've never heard that kind of story, but I admit that I don't read a lot about pedophiles.

But it seems normal that 12 year olds have sex. Perhaps criticizing the age difference has a lot of culture dependent aspects? For example the limit of 18 years to call somebody an adult seems somewhat arbitrary. In any case I don't think pedophilia can be attached to an age limit, only to body development?

Re: US man finds lost mother in an isolated Amazon tribe

#110
post #75

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>For example, what if the girls are being killed if they can't be married? If this were the kind of culture that a person lived in, why not just marry them to save their lives and then not consummate the relationship? >Are you sure that is usually how the story plays out? In cultures that allow children to be married to adults, yes, this is usually how it plays out. Also, I realize there is a possibility that this pa…

"why not just marry them to save their lives and then not consummate the relationship?" That's what I meant - perhaps it often works out that way, and only the rape cases are being reported to the western world for emotional effect. "I just responded to the oft-repeated claim that we should try to be more understanding of pedophiles if and only if they are from a different culture." I've never heard that kind of stor…

> But it seems normal that 12 year olds have sex.

Not to me.

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