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Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12)

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Re: Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12)

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This is a huge problem with SAAS in general. The ephemerality not only of our data, but of the entire service, is highly disturbing. Next time I buy a tool, I'm going to look for something I can hold in my hand (metaphorically speaking), and use until I decide not to.

I guess it's time to go back to standalone desktop apps?

Some of us never left...

Re: Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12)

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I recently became aware of Picturelife, and the Everpix shutdown prompts me to ask: is Picturelife profitable? Everpix looked really great, and I was very close to signing up, but then they shut down. I'm glad I didn't just to see them shut down. I know you say you wouldn't roll over so easily (which is great!) but it ultimately comes down to whether you have a viable business, which Everpix clearly did not. If I sig…

Thanks and great question. Picturelife is not yet profitable but is headed in that direction. If all goes to plan, we can get to profitability by the end of the year. Nothing is a done deal, but that's the plan and I have a very, very high degree of confidence, based on current and history growth trends, that we can pull it off. Hope this helps!

I wonder if it's possible to do an AMA or something here? There's clearly a market need and a lot of folks have felt burned. I bet HN would be interested to know that you taught yourself to code and have been one of the main devs on Picturelife.

Re: Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12)

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Very very very happy Picturelife user here. Your S3 support is the icing on the cake — but please charge me a flat fee for using your software with my own storage. I want to pay for this great storage but your pricing model only prices on usage. You're not selling me a utility — you're selling me your fantastic product. Let me pay for it!

Ha! Thanks -- love that you're asking to pay for it. For now our custom S3 support is a gift. In the future we may change that (and grandfather folks in). In any case, thanks for being a fan.

I can't wait. I wouldn't expect to pay a fee related to the size of my library (I am doing that to S3) but wouldn't hesitate to pay a moderate monthly or one-time fee for the product.

Re: Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12)

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Very very very happy Picturelife user here. Your S3 support is the icing on the cake — but please charge me a flat fee for using your software with my own storage. I want to pay for this great storage but your pricing model only prices on usage. You're not selling me a utility — you're selling me your fantastic product. Let me pay for it!

Ha! Thanks -- love that you're asking to pay for it. For now our custom S3 support is a gift. In the future we may change that (and grandfather folks in). In any case, thanks for being a fan.

I also once phone interviewed with Picturelife but it was cut off because the recruiter organizing our interaction was an asshat. I'm very happy where I ended up (Heroku), but would have loved to work on Picturelife, fwiw.

Re: Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12)

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a huge problem with SAAS in general. The ephemerality not only of our data, but of the entire service, is highly disturbing. Next time I buy a tool, I'm going to look for something I can hold in my hand (metaphorically speaking), and use until I decide not to.

I guess it's time to go back to standalone desktop apps?

Selfhosting isn't out of the question.

Maybe there's a middle ground? If someone provided me with a VPS but made it really easy to self-host applications from a curated list, I'd be all over that.

Re: Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12)

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This is really disappointing. I have been a paying Loom member since shortly after the service was released, it's too bad it wasn't enough to keep it an independent company. After DivvyShot, Everpix, Snapjoy, and now Loom, I don't think I can trust another photo management startup again.

This is a huge problem with SAAS in general. The ephemerality not only of our data, but of the entire service, is highly disturbing. Next time I buy a tool, I'm going to look for something I can hold in my hand (metaphorically speaking), and use until I decide not to.

It's a problem with unnecessarily monolithic SaaS, where everyone reinvents e.g. the storage piece of it.

You should be able to tell XYZ service to work with your photos as stored on Amazon S3. Or stored on, what's that other company, starts with a D...?

Re: Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12)

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They worked hard for that, didn't they?

Definitely! I'm just being realistic - These press releases are basically the tea ceremony everyone is expected to perform. If you just made several mil I honestly doubt you're thinking about making the "transition as smooth as possible". You're thinking "should I buy a Lambo or a Ferrari?" They probably got a memo from Dropbox saying "now that we own your ass, here is a press release that you'll publish asap"

For something like this it's more like "perhaps i can put a down payment on a house after my stocks vest and i pay taxes".

Re: Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12)

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sure, if the product they made wasn't depended on by people. these kind of acquisitions seem to always leave the product customers in a lurch. and for that we don't have to congratulate them.

Assuming this was a smart acquisition by Dropbox, they'll be able to create more value now than they were before the acquisition. Unless you're arguing that the acquisition is actually wealth-destroying, it seems pretty selfish to oppose it.

unless I was one of the customers who's out a service I depended on.

Re: Dropbox acquires Loom (YC W12)

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Thanks and great question. Picturelife is not yet profitable but is headed in that direction. If all goes to plan, we can get to profitability by the end of the year. Nothing is a done deal, but that's the plan and I have a very, very high degree of confidence, based on current and history growth trends, that we can pull it off. Hope this helps!

I wonder if it's possible to do an AMA or something here? There's clearly a market need and a lot of folks have felt burned. I bet HN would be interested to know that you taught yourself to code and have been one of the main devs on Picturelife.

I would love to do an AMA sometime. To be honest, I've just been a long-time lurker on HN (6.7 years a member!), but I sorta wouldn't know the best way/time to go about doing one. Any tips?
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